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Post by sovietstriker on Jul 14, 2008 15:31:55 GMT
This thread is in regard to Daytona USA Circuit Edition (the jap one) not Championship circuit edition (CCE). I read a couple of reviews and saw that all of them said the JAP version (Circuit edition) had the music from the original included along with the remixes. Well recently I got the game it so first thing I did was go to the options menu to see if the original tunes were really there. To my surprise they were the "original" tunes but from the arcade!! (surprised none of the reviewers noticed that!) The saturn port of Daytona had a remastered version of the all the tracks (which were all much better). For example "The king of speed" Around 50 sec to 1 minute when he starts vocalizing (ahhhh ahhhhh etc) You can really notice the difference Arcade Version Saturn Port www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWcqEcnNTtk embedding was fording for some reason on this one The Song that you notice this the most in unfortunately Sky High (  ) You'll notice immediately as soon as "I wanna ...." (around 28 secs to 32 secs) Arcade Version (just uploaded it) Saturn Port |
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Post by RallyDon82 on Jul 20, 2008 11:02:53 GMT
the saturn versions of all segas arcade games(well i think maybe perhaps not all but most) recieved audio overhauls as the games ran off midi in the arcade it sounded like but on saturn cd quality studio mixes is the order of the day  and much better for it they are too. |
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Post by Anthaemia. on Jul 23, 2008 8:04:05 GMT
If you ever get the opportunity, check out Daytona USA Deluxe for the PC. This rare update was released in late '97 and has many improvements compared to its Saturn counterpart, in particular a new (and quite difficult!) track yet to be seen elsewhere - we really need a version that's got everything, perhaps even the "spiritual successor" that is SCUD Race and courses from Battle On The Edge...
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Post by mick_aka on Jul 23, 2008 9:40:31 GMT
I would seriously cut off and hand over one of my own testicles for a home console version of SCUD Race.
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Post by chizzles on Jul 23, 2008 10:35:11 GMT
If you ever get the opportunity, check out Daytona USA Deluxe for the PC. This rare update was released in late '97 and has many improvements compared to its Saturn counterpart, in particular a new (and quite difficult!) track yet to be seen elsewhere - we really need a version that's got everything, perhaps even the "spiritual successor" that is SCUD Race and courses from Battle On The Edge... Is it really rare? I have a non working copy |
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Post by RallyDon82 on Jul 23, 2008 23:19:17 GMT
I would seriously cut off and hand over one of my own testicles for a home console version of SCUD Race. Here Here Mick, what is up with sega, they should be exploting all this great gaming heritage with some xbox live versions of thier legendary arcade games, if they only decided to release one game (and please let it be Scud Race) i would be a happy man come the day of my death, "THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN!" |
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Post by Anthaemia. on Jul 24, 2008 21:26:26 GMT
The closest we ever got to a console version of SCUD Race was Core Design's tech demo for the Dreamcast, which never made it into full production because Sega felt the arcade original didn't have enough of a fanbase. While it's definitely not comparable with the record-breaking Daytona USA, someone clearly knew there was at least some support out there - how else can you explain the bonus content featured in OutRun 2? As for whether or not we'll ever get a direct port or even a full update, that's another issue entirely...
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Post by chapddr on Jan 21, 2013 19:30:24 GMT
Didn't want to make a new thread for just a question but are there any other differences between the pal/ntsc-u and the ntsc-j release than the soundtrack? I heard once that the controls are way better? Do they mean controls for the saturn pad or steeringwheel?
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Post by Anthaemia. on Jan 21, 2013 20:07:14 GMT
The graphics, sound, controls and even some options were changed between all three regional versions of Daytona USA (Championship) Circuit Edition... maybe one day I'll finally get around to writing that full comparison article I promised to do ages back!
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Post by chapddr on Jan 21, 2013 20:16:33 GMT
But which version is the way to go for the best gameplay? Gameplay>graphics  |
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Post by Anthaemia. on Jan 21, 2013 20:21:36 GMT
I personally favour the Japanese edition, though it definitely requires you to have a Saturn running at 60Hz somehow - whether natively or via a display mode switch - in order to appreciate the (slightly) improved frame rate.
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Post by chapddr on Jan 21, 2013 21:26:55 GMT
I have a jap.saturn so that won't be a problem but there no control differences between the 3 versions?
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Post by Anthaemia. on Jan 21, 2013 21:45:08 GMT
I'm not sure about the US release, but the Japanese version definitely had its steering "improved" to handle more like the AM2 original. Unfortunately, it's still not quite right, though certainly a step in the right direction. From what I seem to recall, powersliding is different, and I think a few of the cars had their acceleration/grip statistics altered.
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Post by NeoGeoNinja on Jan 21, 2013 22:15:36 GMT
...maybe one day I'll finally get around to writing that full comparison article I promised to do ages back! I DID SOMETHING SIMILAR... on another forum I'm a member of. I'll see if I can dig it up somehow  |
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Post by NeoGeoNinja on Jan 21, 2013 22:36:22 GMT
AND AFTER A BIT... of digging around and tapping into my memory, here it is. I wrote this rough comparison after finally getting a hold of CE after already owning and playing CCE (for many years!) - I have finally had chance to sit down and give Daytona: Circuit Edition a go! As much as I'd have liked this game to be the 'clear cut' winner above all (for me at least) I'd have to say that it's not all that simple...
I have managed to find quite a few differences between CE and CCE, some of which I'm unsure are documented!
For starters, it's true - the handling in Circuit Edition IS different. The question actually remains as to whether or not it IS better though, as I find the 'quicker' reacting handling of CCE to be more preferable myself. This one - even when set to 'quick handling' still feels a bit slow to react by comparison. It still feels good though.
Something else I noticed (which is odd) is that CE is actually SLOWER than CCE. I played it with friends and it was they who were quick to point it out to me. Even with CCE running in it's respective 50Hz it STILL runs quicker than CE running it's native full-screen 60Hz! I did NOT expect this. As already alluded to in reference to DUSA-2001, speed is important to me in this game so... so that's another mark AGAINST CE in my book.
Onto the more positive aspects, or indeed the most important aspect in relation to CCE specifically: presentation. CE has nicer, cleaner graphics and textures over CCE and it EVEN has graphical addition and improvements too! 
Of particular note is the Desert City level. The CE version (by comparison) contains a more detailed train carriages, more hot air balloons (than the usual one!) and more signage dotted around the place too. Odd but true. Also, on the other extra track (can't remember the name? Contains a big wheel and rollercoaster!) there are similar graphical alterations too, in particular, signs outlining the SEVERE danger of the somewhat aggressive chicane of death! :lol:
Other differences (outside of gameplay) include a scrolling GameOver logo at the end of the race and a jingle as opposed to CCE's dead/static/silent screen. Also the tracks on the select screen have been ordered as they should be: now with the original Arcade three in order with the newer additions below. Oddly the 2nd NEW track was after the 777 speedway on CCE's select screen. Also, the cars in CE are now listed with difficulty gradings unlike CCE - as such Hornet is a beginners car, whilst the Oriole is expert and Magic is intermediate etc.
As you may know, the 'original' music has now been included for use in CE, as it was omitted from CCE. In doing so some of the 'remixes' from CCE are no longer present now, including a bassy track (I can't remember the name of) that I now miss. It should also be noted that, whilst I cannot put my finger on it, the music in CE is NOT the same as the original music found in the Saturn original or Arcade. It doesn't sound right at all. I'll have to investigate this one further, but I'll update this when I know more. Ultimately I could be wrong but It really doesn't sound anywhere near as good. Odd, I know...
SO THOSE...
are really the important differences I found not really elaborated on elsewhere as far as I know? As such I really wanted CE to be T H E conclusive and ultimate home console version of Daytona, but it just falls short in a couple of areas for me - in particular speed and handling characteristics, thus, I haven't actually voted for my fave yet! I play them all more first...
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