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Post by martiniii on Jan 21, 2012 16:58:05 GMT
...not to mention Genso Suikoden, Snatcher, Dark Seed II, Lunar: Silver Star Story, and Lunar: Eternal Blue. What do they all have in common? They're all Japanese-only Saturn games which got western releases on other platforms. (Bonus points if you can identify which platform each one got a western release on! ) Now, it strikes me that this makes it relatively easy to put together an online English script - or even a translation patch - for these games. So, has anyone done so for any of them? If so, where can I find the relevant documentation? And, if not... Would anyone give a fig if I put together an English script for Sword & Sorcery?
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Post by skyrunner14 on Jan 21, 2012 18:06:09 GMT
^OH MY GOD YES YES PLEASE DO THAT YES ...Ahem. Sorry about that. You see, Sword and Sorcery is a game I've been wanting to try for a while, but I've been unable to find a good English walkthrough/English script for it. I considered getting a 3DO and the English release Lucienne's Quest... before I found out it's one of the rarest and most expensive games for that system. So yes, PLEASE do this. I'd be most appreciative!
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Post by RealBlue on Jan 21, 2012 20:46:00 GMT
I played through Dark Seed II once, it's not very good I'm afraid. Snatcher is good on the Saturn but it's a heavily censored version of the game. Not as much as some other versions but still a lot more than the Mega/Sega CD port was. Played though at least half of Grandia by using YouTube playthroughs of the PS1 game. Slow but it worked.
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Post by mick_aka on Jan 21, 2012 23:21:33 GMT
Original Dark Seed is excellent though ;-)
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Post by martiniii on Jan 23, 2012 0:36:06 GMT
^OH MY GOD YES YES PLEASE DO THAT YES ...Ahem. Sorry about that. You see, Sword and Sorcery is a game I've been wanting to try for a while, but I've been unable to find a good English walkthrough/English script for it. I considered getting a 3DO and the English release Lucienne's Quest... before I found out it's one of the rarest and most expensive games for that system. So yes, PLEASE do this. I'd be most appreciative! Wow... I was hoping for an affirmative to my first question, but it's certainly a pleasant surprise that I'm not the only one with an interest in Sword & Sorcery! So yeah, it may take a while, but I'm definitely going to see about transcribing the game's English script now.
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Post by skyrunner14 on Jan 23, 2012 0:52:19 GMT
So you'll do it? YEEEEEESSSSSSSSS. ...Ahem. Well, ever since I beat Mysteria, I gained an interest in other games by Micro Cabin, so along with Sword and Sorcery, I'm also interested in Riglord Saga 2... Anyway, can't wait for the guide!
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Post by bultje112 on Jan 24, 2012 19:12:56 GMT
I really hope for a grandia translation liek shining force 3 scenarios. the script is there basically and the saturn version looks and sounds quite a bit better than psx imo
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Post by mick_aka on Jan 24, 2012 23:12:00 GMT
Don't hold your breath waiting for a Saturn translation patch, far too much work for a very tiny potential audience.
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Post by infernalcombustion on Jan 24, 2012 23:45:45 GMT
As I've happily played through both Grandia & Lunar (with the excellent Prima guide), Alas, it's a little too late for any kind of translation for me. It's also unlikely that another team will translate these games as unlike the shining force scenarios 2 & 3, both games have been released on other platforms. I can't knock you on a great idea though martinii. Also Strahl isn't an RPG, it's a lazerdisc style game a-la Dragons lair, and is perfectly playable to my knowledge without any translation - it even gives you direction and button press indicators: www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnS-zkxYslcstrangely, it looks like it could be fun too - if a little limited!!
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Post by Aydan on Jan 25, 2012 2:15:26 GMT
I cannot for the life of me understand why you would play an rpg using a translation guide when an english version is available anyway. Take silly bias out about prefering one console to another or one having slightly better colours or some other nonesense. I'd love to play Grandia on Saturn but I'd rather just enjoy the english version as is than miss the whole immersion of the story by looking at a screen, then reading off a piece of paper. It just ruins it. If you have NO other choice fine, but when there's a more than good english version available it kidna boggles my mind.
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Post by infernalcombustion on Jan 25, 2012 3:01:58 GMT
I cannot for the life of me understand why you would play an rpg using a translation guide when an english version is available anyway. Take silly bias out about prefering one console to another or one having slightly better colours or some other nonesense. I'd love to play Grandia on Saturn but I'd rather just enjoy the english version as is than miss the whole immersion of the story by looking at a screen, then reading off a piece of paper. It just ruins it. If you have NO other choice fine, but when there's a more than good english version available it kidna boggles my mind. I appreciate what you're saying Aydan, but at the time I had no alternative system to play it on - just my Saturn. Indeed I'll happily play games on any available console if they interest me. I had previously seen a playthrough in SSM and read reviews and decided to pick up a copy very cheaply. Furthermore, I can honestly say that the beauty of the game combined with an atmospheric and playful sountrack, as well as the enjoyable battle dynamics were more than worth a little extra effort. It certainly never felt any less emersive to me for using a guide, although it might spoil the experience for some people. I'm definitely not insisting that anyone else does the same - especially if they have the option of playing the PS version. Besides, If I was put off by japanese text heavy games I'd never have persevered with such enjoyable titles as Princess Crown.
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Post by bultje112 on Jan 25, 2012 12:12:39 GMT
I cannot for the life of me understand why you would play an rpg using a translation guide when an english version is available anyway. Take silly bias out about prefering one console to another or one having slightly better colours or some other nonesense. I'd love to play Grandia on Saturn but I'd rather just enjoy the english version as is than miss the whole immersion of the story by looking at a screen, then reading off a piece of paper. It just ruins it. If you have NO other choice fine, but when there's a more than good english version available it kidna boggles my mind. well there is a simple explanation. the saturn version of grandia is very cheap unlike the english psx version
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Post by RealBlue on Jan 25, 2012 12:18:13 GMT
...I'd rather just enjoy the english version as is than miss the whole immersion of the story by looking at a screen, then reading off a piece of paper. It just ruins it. If you have NO other choice fine, but when there's a more than good english version available it kidna boggles my mind. I'd disagree. Even though there are perfectly good fan translations available, I played through all of SF3 Scenario 2 & Scenario 3 by printing off the translated script & I understood the story perfectly. Btw, I fail to see how reading text off of a screen is better then reading text off of paper. At the end of the day, text is still just text.
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Post by Aydan on Jan 25, 2012 14:32:33 GMT
Shining force doesn't really have that big of a story though, at least not 3. I've played through it and it's not exactly truly moving or great story telling. Other games such as final fantasy or grandia which have truly moving and deep stories does make a difference, not only that but usually there's cutscenes and other things, and I dunno, text on the screen with everything happening is one thing but to divert your attention back and forth just seems kinda meh.
Like I said if its your ONLY option to play the game fine, but there's an english version so you're kinda cheating yourself out of it. Each to their own.
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Post by RealBlue on Jan 25, 2012 15:51:12 GMT
I would argue that most JRPG's including Final Fantasy & Grandia have insanely generic stories.
An unlikely, overemotional youth with spiky hair & an oversized/fantastical weapon of some kind must go on a long journey of adventure & self discovery in order to prevent an ancient unspeakable evil from destroying/taking over the world. Usually perused by an oppressive military organisation of some kind that seeks to control the ancient evil in order to take over the world.
Along the way the youth will build a party of unlikely heroes that usually will include: Old childhood friend, big tough guy, silent cool guy, sassy ladies with little clothing (usually a love interest) & an adorable mascot type character that makes cute noises.
I just described 95% of all JRPG's stories.
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