Metal_Sonic
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Post by Metal_Sonic on Jun 15, 2008 0:30:35 GMT
So my TV has a S-Video input and I noticed that the Saturn has S-Video cables for sale. Now im quite happy with composite cables but if my gaming experience can be improved well then yea, ill plunk some cash down. Your thoughts?
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sonicshuffle
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Post by sonicshuffle on Jun 15, 2008 3:19:26 GMT
Not tried it - unsure about the quality. What size TV do you have?
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Post by Metal_Sonic on Jun 15, 2008 7:10:46 GMT
32 inch CRT
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Post by sonix on Jun 15, 2008 9:36:20 GMT
I'm wondering about it too, I'm going to buy 32 inch LCD and I have only scart cable that's propably responsible for dot crawl on m TV during the play so is the s-video better for LCDs than scart?
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Post by mick_aka on Jun 15, 2008 9:44:26 GMT
Scart is the only way to get proper RGB signal from your Saturn (save a home made component cable) it presents by far the best picture quality. Composite and S-Video from the Saturn look exactly the same, no matter what anyone says to the contrary. You need to make sure the SCART cable is a proper RGB one, allot of the cheaper Saturn SCART leads are composite-SCART. sonix, try another SCART lead.
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Post by sonix on Jun 15, 2008 12:30:24 GMT
I bought mine from ebay and there aren't any other different ones... Or do you mean that mine scart could be exceptionally defective? I could buy a new one but I want to be sure that it'll work properly...
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Post by mick_aka on Jun 15, 2008 17:39:04 GMT
Visually from the outside they may not look different, it's the way they are wired.
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Post by RallyDon82 on Jun 15, 2008 22:34:30 GMT
s-video should be avoided like mick said its a glorified composite, and i mean more tvs have scart than s-video, i think i've only ever owned one tv with s-video input and that was yonks ago and it was never used lol RGB scart really is the best for all consoles i've found, funnily enough my scart for the n64 isnt true rgb just a composite signal through the scart lead which pissed me right off so be careful like mick pointed out as they may say rgb but some are not!
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Post by chizzles on Jun 16, 2008 17:04:21 GMT
Composite and S-Video from the Saturn look exactly the same, no matter what anyone says to the contrary. The differential in quality between S-Video and Composite depends entirley on the decoder decoding the signals. The only TV I noticed a big difference between S-Video and Composite on was my old Hitachi. However S-Video should NEVER, suffer from dot crawl. If you see dot crawl on S-Video, something is wrong. The main difference between composite and S-Video is that the colour signal is seperate from the luma signal. S-Video also has a slightly higher chroma carrier reslution, which results in more colour detail. However, the amount of colour bleed you get really depends on the decoder and the overlay method is uses.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2008 19:34:30 GMT
I see a marked difference when using s-video on my PAL N64 and my chipped SNES.
It actually makes some N64 games look worse because some jaggies that are smoothed out by the composite signal have nowhere to hide - however most look better. Its the only option I have with the PAL N64 as I'm led to believe it can't be modded for RGB.
Its makes quite a difference to my SNES - you can count the pixels on the display. It makes the SNES games look very clear.
overall my understanding is that:
rf < composite < s-video < RGB < component
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Post by chizzles on Jun 16, 2008 19:41:43 GMT
Component is just compressed RGB, the only reason a lot of people think it's superior is because people seem to be under the impression that RGB can't support "HD" resolutions?
RGB does indeed support HD resolutions, VGA, SVGA, XGA, WXGA are all RGB standards, all at high resolution.
PAL N64's can be modded to support RGB however it requires the installation of a circuit board that has some rather hard to find components on it, the only one I've seen was carried out buy a shop in germany and posted over at NFG many years ago.
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Post by digichan on Jun 18, 2008 19:07:27 GMT
s-video is sharper than standard composite.. but as mentioned its a glorified composite. Its lacks the colour vibrancy of SCART tho but if all you can get on your tv is s-video I would upgrade it over composite anyday. EDIT: I dunno if I done this justice but I 'll do it anyway. I hope its enough to show you if there is any differences between the connections. composite connection scart connection s-video composite scart connection s-video
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2008 12:37:57 GMT
It is well worth noting that some SCART leads are not RGB - but merely composite. Always make sure you are getting a genuine RGB SCART cable.
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Post by chizzles on Jun 26, 2008 13:02:45 GMT
You also get S-Video SCARTs, in truth, saying use SCART is like saying "Use RCA".
RCA plugs are used for both component and composite, and refers to nothing other than the actual physical shape of the connector.
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Post by njsaturn on Jun 27, 2008 13:49:36 GMT
S-Video all the way, Saturn S-Video on a HDTV looks incredible.
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