burning saturn games

[speedinin60hz]

hi guys and gals

my new mod chip has arrived (yeh yeh f$£king yeh) and i cant wait to wire it in and get burning games (only rare ones as i am still a collecter of games) can any one help with how to burn bin/cue files and what programs.

i am a seasoned dreamcaster and have burned many a game for that are the CDI saturn files burned in the same way

advanced settings change to mode 2

cdi yada yada yada

are the advanced settings the same for the two CDI'S.

PLEASE HELP BEFORE I END UP WASTING MANY A DISC

[speedinin60hz]

and i dont know if anyonw even bothers but any that i do burn will come with printed discs and lovely glossy cover and back.its got to be more fun to use and the definitive next best thing to original.

send any pics if any of you have done this .

[buckoa51]

Won't Discjuggler burn bin/cue files? If not, Imgburn will record them and it's a free download

[metalhead]

Most available disc authoring software these days will burn the BIN/CUE format.

Nero, Roxio, Alcohol, Magic ISO etc...

Shouldn't need to change any settings from the defaults. I never do and have never had a problem. The disc mode and other settings are all contained within the image file so the authoring software should pick all these up automatically when you point it at the image file.

[Syntesis]

I just drag the cue sheet into my application, set to slowest possible speed and then tell it to burn. You shouldn't need to fiddle with any settings.

I use Burn: burn-osx.sourceforge.net/Pages/English/home.html

By the way you don't need to change any settings in Diskjugler to burn Dreamcast CDI images either.

[sfgsgvs]

Pad the discs to 60+ minutes in case you want to use them on a machine without a modchip installed.

[zyrobs]

The hell is this twilight zone?

Nov 15, 2011 22:13:50 GMT sfgsgvs said:

Pad the discs to 60+ minutes in case you want to use them on a

machine without a modchip installed.

What? That's bullshit. You cannot selfboot Saturn games in any way right now. You need to mod the console some way, chip or swaptrick. (or use the official developers' boot discs)
Where the hell did this stupid rumor come from?

Nov 15, 2011 18:34:36 GMT buckoa51 said:

Won't Discjuggler burn bin/cue files? If not, Imgburn will record

them and it's a free download

Discjuggler may work on its own, but STAY AWAY from Imgburn. It has a fifty-fifty chance of making coasters. I've burned hundreds if not a

thousand discs, and the only time I got bad burns ever was with Imgburn... and every single time someone complains about burning coasters

instead of Saturn games, they all use Imgburn too. Worst of all is that Imgburn won't even report any errors on its verification run.

Just stay the fuck away from Imgburn.

Nov 15, 2011 19:02:48 GMT Syntesis said:

I just drag the cue sheet into my application, set to slowest possible speed and then tell it to burn. You shouldn't need to fiddle with any settings.

This is correct, expect for the "slowest possible speed" part. It should read "do not set to the highest possible speed". On a burner / blank disc designed for 40x burn speeds, there is no point in burning at 1x or 4x. The drive and the disc are designed for higher speeds, and as long as you don't push it to the limit of their tolerance, you'll end up fine.
However as long as the laser in your Saturn is not dying, it could probably even read max speed burns on weak quality discs too.

Personally, I use Nero 7.8.5.0 Lite with a Pioneer DVR-216D drive, burning everything at 16x speeds. Just open the cuesheet, set speed, burn and play. My main Saturn plays everything without any problems, but a second one I modded sometimes doesn't read discs right - it has a dying or miscalibrated laser however, since all the discs play fine on my primary machine.
From the two-three spindles full of games I've burned, not one of them have been coasters, and thats including homebrew titles and CD+G discs too (done for curiousity since I always wondered how the Saturn handles those).

[buckoa51]

STAY AWAY from Imgburn

Never had a single problem with it for CD32 or Saturn games, nor can I find many negative reviews around the web. Only issue I've had is with Nero's "Disc at once 96" mode whatever that was, produced copies that cannot be copied again?!

[syn]

Nov 15, 2011 23:48:12 GMT zyrobs said:

Just stay the fuck away from Imgburn.

That's all I use lol

[zyrobs]

Nov 16, 2011 0:43:11 GMT buckoa51 said:

STAY AWAY from Imgburn

Never had a single problem with it for CD32 or Saturn games, nor can I find many negative reviews around the web.

Go ahead and use it, but don't be surprised if you get coasters.

Only issue I've had is with Nero's "Disc at once 96" mode whatever that was, produced copies that cannot be copied again?!

First time I've heard of this, though I've never had any reason to use that format. DAO/96 mode is subcode burning by the way - required for some copy protections and a few esoteric formats like CD+G (though, I used CloneCD for that, which remains the best quality cd burner to this day).

[speedinin60hz]

cheers for all the replies guys and to my ciopy of discjuggler i always have to set the audio to mode 2 and format from cdda to cdi or they always end up as duds.

again cheers to everyone and will let you know how the first ru goes oh and also i couldnt believe how easy the mod chips are to install cheers rob. racketboy is well to expensive

[mancity]

I used to use Magic ISO and never had a problem.

I find I cannot enjoy a copied game though. Dont know what it is, it just feels wrong.

[sfgsgvs]

Nov 15, 2011 23:48:12 GMT zyrobs said:

What? That's bullshit. You cannot selfboot Saturn games in any way right now. You need to mod the console some way, chip or swaptrick. (or use the official developers' boot discs)
Where the hell did this stupid rumor come from?

Of course you still have to use the swap trick But it makes the easiest way to swap much faster, and if you want to use a Magic Card it's really essential to make the discs 60+ minutes.

[zyrobs]

Nov 17, 2011 13:27:47 GMT sfgsgvs said:

Nov 15, 2011 23:48:12 GMT zyrobs said:

What? That's bullshit. You cannot selfboot Saturn games in any way right now. You need to mod the console some way, chip or swaptrick. (or use the official developers' boot discs)
Where the hell did this stupid rumor come from?

Of course you still have to use the swap trick But it makes the easiest way to swap much faster, and if you want to use a Magic Card it's really essential to make the discs 60+ minutes.

Why is it essential, you are not making any sense.
For just swapping, it doesn't matter how much data there is on the disc, it won't make things easier or give you an "extended time limit" for swapping.
If you use the magic card - this is a region bypass card to run imports, right? I admit that it's much more difficult swapping from inside the Action Replay cart (tighter time limits), but if you are burning games to begin with, you can just regionmod them too, making it pointless to use those cards except maybe for the ram expansion part. Regardless, padding the game will make no difference, again.

[sfgsgvs]

Nov 17, 2011 14:51:06 GMT zyrobs said:

Nov 17, 2011 13:27:47 GMT sfgsgvs said:

Of course you still have to use the swap trick But it makes the easiest way to swap much faster, and if you want to use a Magic Card it's really essential to make the discs 60+ minutes.

Why is it essential, you are not making any sense.
For just swapping, it doesn't matter how much data there is on the disc, it won't make things easier or give you an "extended time limit" for swapping.
If you use the magic card - this is a region bypass card to run imports, right? I admit that it's much more difficult swapping from inside the Action Replay cart (tighter time limits), but if you are burning games to begin with, you can just regionmod them too, making it pointless to use those cards except maybe for the ram expansion part. Regardless, padding the game will make no difference, again.

I'll try to explain better, but english i not my native language so bear with me. Magic Card lets you perform the swap trick without stress by stopping the disc drive motor, it goes like this:

1. Boot with the backup and wait until the disc is recognized as a music CD.
2. Swap the disc for an original game from any region and press the reset button.
3. When you reach the CD player screen again it will tell you to swap the disc for the backup again and press start to boot the game.

You can also perform the swap trick without a Magic Card in a similar fashion by swapping the discs while it's still spinning as step 3. That way you only have to swap discs while it's spinning once instead of twice like with the "normal" swap trick.
The first step in this process takes over a minute if the disc is under 60 minutes but only a couple of seconds if the disc is 60+ minutes, try it yourself by booting different backups in an unmodified machine. I don't know why this is, but padding the discs works every time.