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Post by omp on Jan 30, 2013 21:15:45 GMT
Not to worry on the file sizes, I have scanned as high as I can (schematics etc). Pain in the ass as just one of the pages is 5MB! I have Adobe Pro at home so I can re-join the files if need be. But what I am thinking of doing is to have A4 pages and A3 pages separetely so it is easier for people to print out.
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Post by TrekkiesUnite118 on Jan 30, 2013 21:17:28 GMT
Also turn them into PDFs, they compress down better. When I scanned in the Saturn User Manual a few years back it was 400MB in Word. When I turned it into a PDF it went down to around 30MB if I remember correctly.
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Post by zyrobs on Jan 30, 2013 21:19:06 GMT
When done, who can I email these to please? I am trying to make them into less than 10mB files so they can be emailed easily. Don't you goddamn dare to scan these in anything but the highest quality. I mean, I know that they are photocopies and not great quality to begin with, but still. Shit, I can do editing for you if you send me the raws. I've scanned comic books before, so I know a thing or two. Send me a PM and I'll tell you my ftp address you can upload to. Oh and I'll be hosting these too, so don't worry about the size. Also turn them into PDFs, they compress down better. When I scanned in the Saturn User Manual a few years back it was 400MB in Word. When I turned it into a PDF it went down to around 30MB if I remember correctly. Yeah, don't listen to this guy. I'd prefer the files as straight images per page. Maybe do a PDF but separately.
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Post by zyrobs on Jan 30, 2013 21:25:03 GMT
Not to worry on the file sizes, I have scanned as high as I can (schematics etc). Pain in the ass as just one of the pages is 5MB! I have Adobe Pro at home so I can re-join the files if need be. But what I am thinking of doing is to have A4 pages and A3 pages separetely so it is easier for people to print out. Printing apps can handle splitting the pages, so don't worry about that. Did you scan these in greyscale? 5mb per image sounds very small, unless its greyscale or not a raw image. The 300dpi truecolor raws I did for some comics were 25mb raw.
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Post by mancity on Jan 30, 2013 21:32:32 GMT
Id laugh if the images were taken on a mobile phone camera from 2004 haha
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Post by Syntesis on Jan 30, 2013 21:40:52 GMT
I'd prefer the files as straight images per page. Maybe do a PDF but separately. Quoting for truth.
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Post by omp on Jan 30, 2013 21:43:30 GMT
I scanned as PDF (compact) 600DPI and yes it came out greycale, which may help as some of the pages were dark. In my opinion I wasted my time on the board scans as they are absolutely shit-house to begin with, it is either dark area's or blank. I have just had a look at all the settings, we got new printer/scanners before Christmas and re-learning (I will have to get the old love to show me how to get the best out of it). I can set for PDF, de-select compact and get 600dpi without it whinging at me about greyscale. My other options are TIFF/PDF TIFF/XPS TIFF/JPEG PDF with nothing on / Trace & Smooth / Compact / Reader Extract XPS OOXML JPEG TIFF Again I will ask the old love here what is best for us (she scans day in/day out). Also got to suss out what I can do for getting these home. Work for some reason have set the computers to read only when you put the USB stick in. This is turning out to be a bigger headache than I anticipated. edit I just had a quick scan of the different settings TIFF looks good and is a reasonable file size compared to the PDF scan.
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Post by TrekkiesUnite118 on Jan 30, 2013 22:14:33 GMT
Also turn them into PDFs, they compress down better. When I scanned in the Saturn User Manual a few years back it was 400MB in Word. When I turned it into a PDF it went down to around 30MB if I remember correctly. Yeah, don't listen to this guy. I'd prefer the files as straight images per page. Maybe do a PDF but separately. There's no reason to not make it mostly PDF for all the text portions. Heck even the schematics should turn out ok for that. I'd say make a PDF of the whole document then have separate image files for things like the schematics and board diagrams. Here's the Saturn Manual I did a few years back: www.segasaturn.co.uk/dd/docs/Sega_Saturn_US_Model_2_Manual.pdfDoes that really look bad to you?
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Post by zyrobs on Jan 30, 2013 22:16:58 GMT
A3 sized big office scanners have the drawback that they tend to only do greyscale scans. At least the one at our place only could do that. It was more of a copier than a scanner.
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Post by omp on Jan 30, 2013 22:19:14 GMT
Unfortunately if you have poo to start with, you will only get poo out of it. This is one of the better ones, you should see the Master System manual. THAT will be fun.
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Post by zyrobs on Jan 30, 2013 22:29:14 GMT
What settings did you use on each scan on that picture? It looks like the left one was scanned in 2 color mode while the right is greyscale (256 color black and white). As for getting them home, just upload them to a file hosting service. Dropbox would work fine, they give 2gb with free accounts I think, it should be more than enough. There's no reason to not make it mostly PDF for all the text portions. Heck even the schematics should turn out ok for that. I'd say make a PDF of the whole document then have separate image files for things like the schematics and board diagrams. Here's the Saturn Manual I did a few years back: www.segasaturn.co.uk/dd/docs/Sega_Saturn_US_Model_2_Manual.pdfDoes that really look bad to you? Jokes aside it looks absolutely godawful. You do raw scans first, then clean them up as best as possible, THEN do a PDF at the very, very last step, to join the edited files. Editing is always a must, because print quality is always way lower than an actual image.
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Post by omp on Jan 30, 2013 22:58:52 GMT
Sorry matey but what do you mean by raw scans? PM me your email address, I will send the 600DPI of the A4 stuff.
I did a quick re-scan of one of the A3 sheets (yes I had the colour on AUTO-changed it to B&W). I then printed it out and showed him the original copy, asked if he could see any difference. After getting the awkward eye and a "WTF?" he said next to no difference, then got another awkward eye and another "WTF?".
For now I will have to leave this till tomorrow, at work should be working lol! Also tonight got some family stuff happening and the old car got sold so have to do the shit to deal with that as well..busy busy.
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Post by zyrobs on Jan 30, 2013 23:14:09 GMT
raw scans = unedited, uncompressed images. The originals, which you then use to edit/change/improve etc. TIFF is uncompressed, JPG is lossy compressed, and PDF can be practically anything and its a bitch to extract those for any reason.
Either way it doesn't matter, I imagine that work scanner can only scan greyscale or 2 color BW images... make sure you use greyscale and not just the 2 color modes, and preferably separate TIFF images. We can edit the images and join them to pdf later on.
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Post by omp on Jan 30, 2013 23:25:50 GMT
So scan in TIFF/greyscale then?
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Post by zyrobs on Jan 31, 2013 0:07:01 GMT
If that's the best your scanner can do, yeah, but ultimately you'd have to experiment on what is the best setting. It's a fun way to use up an entire day, but once you have the best settings nailed down, you can just scan in everything in batch.
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