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Post by klonoa7h on Jul 26, 2014 13:19:12 GMT
I've been collecting some PAL Saturn games, and I've been interested in collecting games released in cardboard cases like Story of Thor 2, Shining Wisdom, Saturn Bomberman, Panzer Dragoon and Guardian Heroes. The problem is that the cases these games were released in are incredibly badly made cardboard cases, which had cellotape on the front and back of the case. Whenever I've tried to remove it on games that came in them, it leaves residue and makes it look crap, shame really, as alot of the games released in this sort of case are now a bitch to find in decent condition.
Does anybody here know how to remove the cellotape while also not damaging the case to much? I really wish Sega had the plastic cases from the beginnning.
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Post by mick_aka on Jul 26, 2014 17:33:51 GMT
Removing tape from a card case is always going to be problematic, you could try very gently heating the area to soften the adhesive, hairdryer on low not too close should do it, should just leave you with some residue you can remove with a mild solvent.
I can't guarantee that will work, but it's where I would start...
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Post by mancity on Jul 28, 2014 8:36:37 GMT
I personally would not even attempt it. Too high a chance of a tear. Just accept it has tape on and move on.
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Post by NeoGeoNinja on Jul 28, 2014 20:10:00 GMT
I've done this using the heat from a kettle's steam. Then removed residue with lighter fluid. Oooo... sounds dangerous! Steam... Cardboard... Danger... |
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Post by zetastrike on Jul 28, 2014 20:19:58 GMT
What exactly are these cardboard cases like? Is it just thick(ish) cardboard glued to a thin plastic skeleton? Do they even snap shut? When were they phased out for the plastic cases?
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Post by NeoGeoNinja on Jul 28, 2014 22:45:39 GMT
When were they phased out for the plastic cases? TBH... not soon enough  |
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Post by dquick on Jul 29, 2014 0:05:41 GMT
What exactly are these cardboard cases like? Is it just thick(ish) cardboard glued to a thin plastic skeleton? Do they even snap shut? When were they phased out for the plastic cases? The cardboard case. It is a single piece of cardboard glued to two separate halves of a rigid plastic shell and then folded over. So basically everytime you open it you are encouraging the case to come free of the cardboard and fall apart (which they do all the time). The plastic is rigid with one half having a small indent about 2cm long, and the other half having an extruding part to slot in. It is rigid plastic so this doesn't work very well, there is no actual clipping mechanism. Lastly the same lack of give in the plastic applies to the part that holds the disk, so the disks always come free. The Saturn manuals are thick and take up half the case and are basically required to make sure the disk doesn't come loose. Honestly, the person that came up with this case design was taking the piss.
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Post by klonoa7h on Jul 29, 2014 0:48:30 GMT
It makes collecting early Saturn PAL games a bitch, since they can usually come in shit condition with permanant pen marker on the case, or the plastic fell apart. I bought Rayman and Parodius a while back, and they literally fell apart. It's funny, I can plunk down £50 on either Dragon Force and Burning Rangers (which I won recently) and not worry to much because they came in the plastic cases, whereas I can get worried sick about either Saturn Bomberman or Guardian Heroes because they may have tear on the cardboard and gunk which makes it look like utter shite. This is the reason I collect mostly Japanese games, since they come in standard jewel cases, which look nice and are easily replaceable. I think 90% of my collection is Japanese, 8% PAL and 2% US. At least when I got D recently, that came basically mint without the stickers and no marks.
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Post by zetastrike on Jul 29, 2014 1:17:05 GMT
What exactly are these cardboard cases like? Is it just thick(ish) cardboard glued to a thin plastic skeleton? Do they even snap shut? When were they phased out for the plastic cases? The cardboard case. It is a single piece of cardboard glued to two separate halves of a rigid plastic shell and then folded over. So basically everytime you open it you are encouraging the case to come free of the cardboard and fall apart (which they do all the time). The plastic is rigid with one half having a small indent about 2cm long, and the other half having an extruding part to slot in. It is rigid plastic so this doesn't work very well, there is no actual clipping mechanism. Lastly the same lack of give in the plastic applies to the part that holds the disk, so the disks always come free. The Saturn manuals are thick and take up half the case and are basically required to make sure the disk doesn't come loose. Honestly, the person that came up with this case design was taking the piss.
Wow, and I thought we got the short end of the stick in NA. Still, a lot of your releases came in non-idiotic packaging unlike ours. I'd love to know why SoA and SoE looked at standard jewel cases and thought "that just won't do". PAL manuals might end up being too thick to keep in a regular case though. Isn't that why Mega CD games came in double sided cases despite having only one disc? |
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Post by mancity on Jul 29, 2014 6:27:44 GMT
This is all why I collect JPN games only for the Sarurn  |
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Post by zetastrike on Jul 29, 2014 13:38:22 GMT
This is all why I collect JPN games only for the Sarurn Me too. I don't have to worry about the disc coming loose in transit or the case being reduced to a fine powder. |
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Post by mancity on Jul 29, 2014 13:43:24 GMT
Plus the Japanese people have MUCH more respect for items they own. Most of my JPN games look brand new.
Some Xbox 360 games ive bought second hand look like they have been thrown onto a rally course and left there a year.
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Post by zetastrike on Jul 29, 2014 14:42:59 GMT
Plus the Japanese people have MUCH more respect for items they own. Most of my JPN games look brand new. Some Xbox 360 games ive bought second hand look like they have been thrown onto a rally course and left there a year. Yeah, their standards for condition are much, much higher than ours. What they consider B condition, we would call mint. |
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Post by mancity on Jul 29, 2014 14:51:27 GMT
Haha not quite.
That they call 'B', would likely be sold as 'Brand new original sealed' by plenty of UK sellers, and actually be wrapped in cling-film.
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Post by mick_aka on Jul 29, 2014 16:43:24 GMT
The black pen trick can work out nicely but NEVER with permanent marker as they create a pupley tint.
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