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Post by lordmaximus on May 4, 2017 12:10:32 GMT
I voted for Last Bronx, as I quite liked the game, and happen to also own it. DOA is not a game I own (on Saturn), and although I vaguely recall playing it in the arcades at college, my "modern" experience of it is from playing it on the Xbox in the Dead of Alive 2 Ultimate collection. I think that is the Saturn port included on that disc. By that time, it felt a bit primitive, especially compared to Dead or Alive 2 (even the DC and PS2 versions, rather than the souped up Xbox version)!
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Post by lordmaximus on Mar 18, 2017 22:30:39 GMT
Thanks chaps for the replies, on balance I take it as more or less a "go for it"!:-)
I'll look forward to getting it some time this week, and then playing it in about just over 9 months from now.
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Post by lordmaximus on Mar 17, 2017 9:23:06 GMT
Hi all. Just wondering if the "demo" Christmas Nights is worth buying if I already own the full game? Looks like its between 6-10 quid disc only. Is it worth having both? Thanks!
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Post by lordmaximus on Jun 5, 2015 11:08:05 GMT
Very nice. Not far to go! I actually just recently picked up copies of both Deep Fear and DragonBallZ. Deep Fear set me back $220aud but I've wanted it for so so long. Absolutely love The original Resident Evil and seeing Resident Evil 2 was unfortunately cancelled for the saturn this is as close as I will come to something similar on the Saturn! Just came yesterday actually, looking forwarded to having a game! $220 AUD eh? I'll do you a swap. You can have my boxed copy of Doom on the Saturn (without instructions) for Deep Fear? I'm in a generous mood I'll even throw in an unboxed copy of 4X4.
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Post by lordmaximus on Jun 4, 2015 17:10:01 GMT
I could only offer you Exhumed, but you'd have to kill me and exhume me first before you can get your sweaty mitts on it.
Actually, the PAL version of Exhumed is only about £12 on Ebay, so pretty reasonable.
Games like Panzer Dragoon Saga are absurdly expensive. I can see one on Ebay now for £200. Sega should just do the right thing and release it on PSN and Xbox Live for under a tenner.
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Post by lordmaximus on Jun 2, 2015 15:29:48 GMT
lordmaximus: I dislike the word "hoarding" when it comes to serious game collectors. I'm sure that, for some, buying a lot of things can be a life-disrupting problem, but responsible adults aren't going to let it get too out of hand. Also, hoarding implies to me, that we're buying games to keep them away from other people, and I don't think that's true in most cases. Some people buy up fifty copies of one uncommon game and hold them until the price skyrockets, and then they sell them off. That's hoarding. Collecting normally implies building up or completing a set of something, but buying each, individual item just once. Additionally, even if they have too many games to play themselves, I think collectors get a similar joy, from just hunting for and finding games, as well as owning them. One thing you can be sure of, is that a collector is going to keep those games in good condition, vs. a more casual gamer, that might break the cases or throw them out. And a store like GameStop, can be trusted to scrap a lot of games as well. I understand this, but what happens when they just buy up a PAL/NTSC set of Saturn games? If they had the money, they'd do it pretty quickly. What happens when this is all done? Do they go on to collecting something else? Or are they truly content? I just find it hard to believe there is ever an "end" game, no pun intended.
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Post by lordmaximus on Jun 2, 2015 9:40:51 GMT
Fair enough, but what happens when you get that full baseball set, or that full saturn set? What happens next? I just want to see inside the mind of a collector, as I truly believe they may struggle to find contentment, and move on to collecting something else. Its not a criticism, as I have seen how collecting turns into hoarding, and it is damaging. But you have a fair point on the Saturn library, its not too overwhelming. Still, many of those basketball games you mention are utter gash!
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Post by lordmaximus on Jun 1, 2015 15:40:38 GMT
If money was absolutely no issue, I would love to have the entire PAL collection. Crap games and all. Seems pointless to me owning crap games you'll never play, and as per my post above it indicates a hoarding and collecting obsession rather than just having a healthy passion for quality games. If money was no object, sure I'd buy all the best Saturn, PS2, Wii, Dreamcast etc etc games, but I wouldn't waste space or money that could go elsewhere on endless iterations of FIFA or NHL Hockey titles (just the best one of each would suffice!!). Being content is underrated in society!
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Post by lordmaximus on Jun 1, 2015 8:17:55 GMT
I definitly wouldn't go for a full library. There's nothing worse than having crap games in a collection. For once I agree with you! I love having a collection of games, but I like them because they are a GOOD collection of games that I have or will play. Not games just bought to complete a "set". There are so many terrible Saturn (and same applies to all consoles) games out there, as well as the annual "updated" sports games. I am a Pro Evolution Soccer fan, but would never buy every update, as they are often so minor until a technology change. Its more remarkable on consoles like the PS2 or Wii, where there is so much painful shovelware, throwaway sports titles and licensed movie rubbish. How people can just continue to buy up that shit is beyond me. Just because you can get a Barbie game for a quid, doesn't make it worthwhile! So collect by all means, but have a GOOD collection, not just anything and everything because of an obsessive compulsive hoarding disorder!
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Post by lordmaximus on Mar 24, 2015 17:20:43 GMT
Yea, i can't really recall analogue actually been a critical part of the 5th generation outside of the N64. For the PS1 and Saturn it seemed a bit "bolted" on at the time to match or surpass the N64. The N64 single analogue stick worked brilliantly on specific games, but I can't remember an absolutely essential PS1 analogue game (not counting the mandatory Ape Escape).
I have the original Dual Analogue (without the shock), and its quite comfortable, even if its large, it fits my large mitts quite well. They shortened it afterwards with the dual shock, but that pad was pretty much the blueprint of Playstation controllers for the next 15 years or so, so it must have been decent!
I agree with neo, it was only the 6th generation when analogue controls became a must. My favourite pad of all is actually (for analogue) is the Xbox 360 pad, it just is comfortable, and has buttons in all the right places, plus the analogue L/R buttons work beautifully for driving games like Forza. Once I went forza, i just couldn't play Gran Turismo games in the same way.
As for the Saturn controller. The Mk2 (or standard japanese pad) is a really nice comfy digital pad though.
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Post by lordmaximus on Mar 16, 2015 20:36:02 GMT
Yes, I know the PSX/PSP versions are the best ones. But the bonus stuff is cool if you played those versions to death. If you play the Saturn version first tho, then you won't appreciate the extra stuff as much I think. Rather like dating and then marrying the first woman you meet I jest.....
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Post by lordmaximus on Jan 27, 2015 10:14:33 GMT
As far as I know the original source code of PDS is lost - so a remake would be very expensive to create as it would need to redeveloped from scratch. How could Sega lose that?!? The incompetence! In which case, I'm definitely sure they won't mind us pirating away with PDS!
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Post by lordmaximus on Jan 26, 2015 11:44:39 GMT
Some great games on that list but it is true, Some games on that list will set you back the price of a new 3ds but will only go up in price and are excellent games. You want length and depth, go for panzer dragoon saga, 4 disc Monster but it aint cheap though. Hate to say it, but I think when retro games are that expensive, the best thing to do is to just pirate them, or play them on an emulator. Its insane that this game costs what it does, and Sega certainly don't benefit from it being that pricey on Ebay, nor do they lose out from people playing a pirated copy or emulated version. Its a pity they can't just re-release PDS on Xbox Live or PSN, with upgraded visuals and put it on there for a tenner. It would hopefully knock the wind out of the price of the original a bit, but at least give the rest of the population a legal way of playing this game (and generate Sega some cash).
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Post by lordmaximus on Nov 18, 2014 15:41:02 GMT
It's pretty decent for some games, just not for others, unless your definition of "decent" is "accurate". Visually the PC N64 emulators blow away the Virtual Console. Granted - they do run at higher resolution and therefore look "better", but I don't mind that much about visual upgrades and look more for trying to accurately "emulate" the original hardware. The Virtual Console for N64 is not brilliant, as they only managed to do it for about 20 N64 games, but I've found those 20 games to work much more reliably, and with less glitching than running on a PC N64 emulator. The N64 is not that easy to emulate accurately, hence why the Everdrive 64 is popular. I just prefer to play N64 games on that, as its obviously natively running the games perfectly. The Virtual Console visual upgrades (480p) is a nice touch, and not too over-the-top high resolution.
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Post by lordmaximus on Nov 17, 2014 16:07:05 GMT
Your jumping the gun way too soon on the time line cj. A600/A1200 are early 1992 and were released back in the middle of the Megadrive/SNES era. Back in 1999 a Pentium II PC running Windows98 on average was just about fast enough to run an A500 faithfully minus the odd sound issues, depending what it was you were running. That same PC could emulate an N64 perfectly with it's eyes shut... That should give you an idea what your looking at in terms of speed required. If you think a Saturn can emulate an N64 perfectly then there is every chance Workbench 2.5 will run. Since when has N64 emulation ever been decent, even on a PC?? The best example of N64 emulation has been the Virtual Console on the Wii, but they were official so had a huge advantage! I remember my Pentium 3 1Ghz laptop struggled to emulate the A1200 sound. Think it was perfect on the A500 though.
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