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Post by Le Roi on Apr 21, 2019 20:58:38 GMT
Cheers mate. I read about the upcoming upgrade, but I'm going to stick with the 2400G. Prices are in a sweet spot right now, so the timing just seems right. Also, a few months is a long time I managed to find a good motherboard for £70 and Ram for £80. Total build is now £405. Apparently the Vega 64 is a feasible GPU upgrade. Too expensive now, but it hopefully offers a fairly simple solution in a few years.
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Post by Le Roi on Apr 21, 2019 11:41:47 GMT
Apparently the APUs can handle most games today at 1080p or 720p. 4K is a massive leap in budget, so I'll pass. The 2400G seems to offer more potential to add a GPU later. I'll need to review the rest of the system to see if that's possible. I want the form factor(?) to be small so it fits on a specific shelf in my living room Extra fans etc for GPU might prevent that. This is why I don't go on PC gamer forums.
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Post by Le Roi on Apr 21, 2019 9:43:44 GMT
OK, much appreciated. In case anyone's interested, it seems more cost-effective to build my own rig than buy refurbished.
I've come up with two options. No. 1 takes care of emulation and current games at 1080p or 720p.
The question is whether that will handle the min requirements of next gen games (Cyberpunk, FFVII Remake). If not, No. 2 looks like it will.
Neither option has a good upgrade path, as I prefer a mini build with an APU instead of GPU. Thoughts welcome.
Option 1 - £325
APU - Ryzen 2200G 3.7 ghz Vega 8 - £85 Motherboard - Gigabyte B450M Micro ATX - £60 RAM - 2x Corsair 4GB 3200mhz - £50 Power - EVGA 500W - £40 SSD - SanDisk 480GB - £50 Case - Small build - £40
Potentially upgrade the motherboard for +£35.
Might struggle with later MAME, but if it can play Garou flawlessly, I'm fine.
Option 2 - £460
APU - Ryzen 2400 3.7 ghz Vega 11 - £125 Motherboard - As Rocks B450 - £120 RAM - 2x 8GB Corsair 3200mhz - £90 Power - same - £40 Case - same - £40 SSD - same - £50
Could buy some parts 2nd hand, but need to research more.
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Post by Le Roi on Apr 20, 2019 15:23:50 GMT
Thanks guys. This place never let's me down A few more questions, then: Will the spec Bucko posted run DC games like original hardware? Any thoughts on buying refurbished gaming PCs? And any tips for getting Windows 10 cheaper (legally)?
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Post by Le Roi on Apr 19, 2019 9:40:49 GMT
Hey guys, If you were starting from scratch with a gaming set-up, what would you do? My priority is emulating PS1, DC and MAME. I'm interested in some, but not many, new games. I'll list them later on. Other key information: an all-in-one solution would be ideal, depends on time and cost. Also, I'm not tech-savvy. Currently it seems like these are my options: 1. Preloaded Raspberry Pi This was my preferred option, but I've just been scammed for a couple of hundred quid, so I'm wary. 2. Build my own Raspberry Pi + buy old PCI'm wary of downloading viruses from ROM sites. I've bricked a couple of laptops in the past by clicking on dodgy links I wouldn't use my current laptop for downloading due to all the personal info on it. I'd buy an extra, cheap one. Extremely time-consuming option and potentially not cost-effective. 3. New PCMy max budget would be £500-ish. All-in-one solution, but maybe not best value. Wouldn't outperform PS4 Pro on new games. I'd need to pay for Windows, as I'm not comfortable with Linux. Also very time-intensive. 4. 2nd hand PCFor retro emulation only. I don't know the min spec or budget required for DC emulation. 5. Combination of consolesPS4 Pro + Psp + Wii I already own a soft-modded Wii. I can buy a cheap preloaded SD card to take care of 16-bit ROMs. Easy. PS4 Pro takes care of new games. Not a priority, but would be nice. PSP would be for PSX emulation. Not sure how it handles MAME. Can't emulate DC. Interesting 'new' gamesThis is just to give you a better idea of my gaming tastes. I prefer pick-up and play or short games, with some exceptions as per below. Persona 5 Nier Automata Spiderman Kingdom Hearts 3 (maybe) Fifa... Indie 2D platformers, shmups and run-N-gun games. FFVII remake and GTA VI;) Any help would be massively appreciated.
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Post by Le Roi on Nov 16, 2018 21:17:20 GMT
Interesting back story.
I'm wondering if and when I'll get to play much Saturn given my current work/life situation.
But there seems little point selling right now.
If prices rise significantly, I might sell most but hang on to a few eg PD Saga.
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Post by Le Roi on Aug 29, 2018 21:25:49 GMT
Cheers
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Post by Le Roi on Aug 28, 2018 18:08:05 GMT
The retrotink with a non-modded N64.
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Post by Le Roi on Aug 27, 2018 21:31:13 GMT
Thanks for the lol I bought a long USB cable for my hifi system and it's shit, so I wondered if there was a correlation. I assume PAL RGB mod would be better given superior image quality. Cheers
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Post by Le Roi on Aug 27, 2018 9:51:18 GMT
Ok, thanks! I didn't know about the Retrotink.
So my total lag time should be 17-24ms max for the RT + OSSC + projector. I'll probably still notice, but it's still a massive upgrade on my old LCD TV.
One final, cheeky question -- will I increase the lag time if I use 1) long HDMI cables; or 2) a SCART switcher?
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Post by Le Roi on Aug 26, 2018 20:10:38 GMT
I realise there are a million threads on the internet about Framemeister input lag, but I was hoping to get the thoughts of people here on the subject. The projector I want apparently has 17-24ms lag and the Framemeister 24ms. Will that suffice for games that require a lot of precision e,g, platformers and shmups? If I go for the OSSC instead, which has no lag, I may lose some compatibility (can't play N64...). Therefore I'm trying to assess the pros and cons given my specific set-up.
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Post by Le Roi on Jun 18, 2018 21:17:05 GMT
I bought my entire Saturn collection in almost one go in 2016.
Obviously I'd missed out on the glory days, but it was clear prices would go up further.
Not sure I'd sell anything. Maybe Burning Rangers and NTSC US Dragon Force if they reach utterly insane prices. Hopefully never selling PD Saga.
Most of the favourites in my collection are actually cheaper titles.
Nights and Sega Rally are the two games I associate most with Saturn, so I'm really glad I've got the long box Pal versions.
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Post by Le Roi on May 2, 2018 21:54:08 GMT
Brilliant article.
Good to get their thoughts on the storyline - - even if they don't seem 100% clear themselves.
I always felt the ending was open ended (without wanting to mention any spoilers).
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Post by Le Roi on Mar 22, 2018 22:39:21 GMT
Saga. Could go down two routes:
1) Indie-ish style remake that updates the graphics but keeps the linear format. Hopefully they wouldn't re-record the voice acting with appalling English/American actors, but no doubt they would.
2) Full blown open world adventure that follows the same plot. Hopefully combat would remain the same and there'd be no Witcher-style hack 'n' slash. Again, inevitable.
I think I'd prefer the first option, as I like the fact that PDS is so fast-paced.
The gameplay also hasn't dated *too* much. I don't think you can say the same for e.g. FFVII, which should definitely be more enjoyable to play than the original if done properly.
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Post by Le Roi on Dec 27, 2017 23:42:35 GMT
Yeah, I don't want to mod. I might go down the flash cart route next year. Most of the remaining games on my bucket list are the expensive ones, and I have other financial priorities now. This would solve the Dragon Force issue too obvs.
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