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Post by bultje112 on Sept 18, 2017 17:27:26 GMT
according to digitalfoundry this is a myth, but then look at this video:
wow! is this a revises version? was there a satakore version for tomb raider with improved fps and even graphics?
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Post by bultje112 on Sept 19, 2017 6:59:28 GMT
I just took a satakore version from ebay. will keep you informed if it runs any better.
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Post by darkman01 on Sept 19, 2017 7:59:57 GMT
Ive played both versions, the PAL and NTSC-J versions. Besides the fact the PAL version is missing things and even a proper cart save feature , it does seem a bit more sluggish in some places,
that said its certainly not a night and day situation , if the game is really struggling in the PAL version , its going to struggle in the Japanese version too.
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Post by bultje112 on Sept 19, 2017 17:43:42 GMT
look at the video I posted. a big difference I would say.
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Post by darkman01 on Sept 19, 2017 19:12:42 GMT
oh Ive seen it , and live Ive said, Ive owned both (eventually sold the PAL version) , and there certainly is a difference (Ive also found it to be a bit less visually glitchy, just an overall more polished product) , Im just saying don't go into it expecting a solid 30fps.
actually I have to say the PAL version doesn't even seem to be fully optimized for 50hz (odd given its a British developer and publisher), you can tell Lara looks noticably wider than either the JPN version , or the PS1/PC versions, and there are still small borders . This may well be part of the reason for the sometimes sluggish feel of the game
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Post by tempest on Sept 20, 2017 14:03:10 GMT
PAL version definitely looks more sluggish.
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Post by barryburton on Sept 20, 2017 14:46:26 GMT
Isn't that just the 50/60hz difference?
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Post by darkman01 on Sept 20, 2017 15:35:45 GMT
Isn't that just the 50/60hz difference? I honestly think its part of it, but then again , given there are things missing from the PAL version (no cart save feature, missing save points, enemies for some reason being bullet sponges , etc), they may well have optimised the engine a bit by then. it would be interesting to compare the PAL version and the NTSC-U version , where we could find out . |
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Post by xDerekRx on Sept 21, 2017 3:07:12 GMT
I used to have a PAL copy of TR but no longer do.
I love finding these odd regional differences.
I know its well known that the PAL version was rushed and is bugged out and missing features (I hate when companies rush things just to have release dates). And to add to its PAL...
But are the US and JPN versions different? Never read anything about it. Sometimes you can get hints in the release date.
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Post by bultje112 on Sept 21, 2017 8:12:28 GMT
the japanese satakore version was released in 1998, for what it's worth.
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Post by darkman01 on Sept 21, 2017 9:16:36 GMT
the japanese satakore version was released in 1998, for what it's worth. it was January 1997 as far as I know. even if it was only a few months after the initial version , sometimes thats enough just to finish the game off |
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Post by bultje112 on Sept 21, 2017 16:23:16 GMT
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Post by darkman01 on Sept 21, 2017 18:16:15 GMT
yes the Satakore version , which is a reprint (sort of like Platinum or Greatest Hits I guess) www.satakore.com/sega-saturn-game,,T-6010G,,Tomb-Raiders-JPN.html the original version was released in 1997 |
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Post by sych on Sept 23, 2017 22:42:47 GMT
Wasn't there a few additional changes made to the Satakore version over the original JPN? I've often heard the JPN Satakore version is the definitive version. Watching that video above it appears there is a noticeable difference between the PAL and JPN version.
bultje112 I look forward to reading your feedback on the game when you finally get round to playing the Satakore version. I've been thinking about trading in my PAL copy for the JPN version for a while now, so I'll be very interested to read your report. Will you be playing it on a JPN or PAL machine? If PAL, do you have a 60hz set up?
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Post by darkman01 on Sept 23, 2017 23:20:05 GMT
Wasn't there a few additional changes made to the Satakore version over the original JPN? I've often heard the JPN Satakore version is the definitive version. Watching that video above it appears there is a noticeable difference between the PAL and JPN version. bultje112 I look forward to reading your feedback on the game when you finally get round to playing the Satakore version. I've been thinking about trading in my PAL copy for the JPN version for a while now, so I'll be very interested to read your report. Will you be playing it on a JPN or PAL machine? If PAL, do you have a 60hz set up? good call regarding the potential changes, I forget sometimes that even reprints like this get additional fixes (VF4 Evo being a good example) I need to set up the Saturn sometime and replay the Japanese version I have (non Satakore) and see how it compares to that video , as I can't tell exactly from memory. that said, given the PAL version wasn't optimised correctly (the PS1 version certainly looks like it was), any 60hz version will be a bit faster just based on that. |
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