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Post by tempest on Feb 19, 2018 0:15:12 GMT
Zwei hands down. The storyline might not be as epic, but its more touching, as Lagi and Lundi bond. The game feels more cinematic with branching paths and some epic moments (like flying off the ravine for the first time) and boss battles. The dragon evolution system and bererk attack really add to the game. Graphically it's still beautiful today and the soundtrack is suitably epic. If it has any flaws, it's that it's too easy these days.
I love the original PD, but it feels very dated. The controls feel clunky and the game is very hard (I've never made it past Episode 6 without cheats because Episode 5 eats up all my credits). However, the intro is epic and the soundtrack killer (Episode 3's track still stands out with its bombastic drums).
Both are fantastic games. Any self-respecting Saturn owner should have both in their collection.
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Post by NeoGeoNinja on Mar 29, 2018 0:14:57 GMT
IM ONE OF THOSE...
Who got to PD1 AFTER playing Zwei originally, all this time.
Personally, I found PD1 to be VERY unrefined compared to Zwei. It felt like a much earlier game on every level and felt much rougher around the edges in every area too.
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Post by martiniii on Mar 31, 2018 2:25:04 GMT
Zwei, definitely. PD1 is great as far as it goes, but Zwei offers so many improvements, first and foremost being the improved control and perspective;in PD1 it often feels like the game is forcing you to fly into an attack, while in Zwei it really feels like if you can't dodge an attack, it's purely your own fault.
Zwei is much smoother, both the models and the frame rate. There's more story, and what story there is is better paced. The multiple routes and dragon transformations genuinely add to the depth. I like the soundtrack better; it feels more enticing and fantastical and less arcadey. The bosses are more imposing, and more cinematic in their presentation. Last but not least, you've got a save function, a convenience I am very fond of. I feel like the limited continues in PD1 is an artificial way of extending the game's longevity rather than something which adds to the challenge in a meaningful way. Overall, I find Zwei both more polished and more memorable.
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Post by wwammy on Apr 4, 2018 10:44:44 GMT
IM ONE OF THOSE... Who got to PD1 AFTER playing Zwei originally, all this time. Personally, I found PD1 to be VERY unrefined compared to Zwei. It felt like a much earlier game on every level and felt much rougher around the edges in every area too. Me too I prefer Zwei by far it was a pack in game with my original console. This also meant going back was difficult because Zwei just did everything PD 1 did but better.
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Post by shaddow085 on Jan 17, 2020 9:13:54 GMT
I got a a Repro of Panzer Dragoon Saga recently and tested it for 30 min already. I really liked it so. I do did not continue my playthrough because I need to finish some other games first though.
I am also planning to get Panzer Dragoon and Panzer Dragoon 2 eventually. Are the stories between the 3 games connected and it would be better for the experience to Play the first 2 Panzer Dragoon games first before moving on with Saga?
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Post by linkt101 on Jan 17, 2020 9:25:43 GMT
In terms of the timeline they go PDZ > PD > PDS
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Post by shaddow085 on Jan 17, 2020 11:43:12 GMT
Ok I see. Thanks for the information. I think I will get all of 2 of them anyway. The deserve a place in my Saturn collection for sure. And unlike PDS the first too games are affordable enough to consider buying the originals and not a repro. The price of the japanese versions are ok.
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Post by martiniii on Feb 14, 2020 16:59:11 GMT
The storyline in the first Panzer Dragoon is minimal, but playing PD2 before PDSaga is a good idea, since PDSaga refers back to PD2 at a number of points. There are connections worth appreciating.
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Post by The Elite MYT on Mar 28, 2020 21:22:34 GMT
Booted up Zwei again for the first time in a while (after playing the remake, now is a good time ) and I have to say that I had more of a blast than before. I adored it before but still consider the original to be better. Now I'm not so sure. The original definitely has more of a wow factor with the levels, from the beautiful opening, to the sand dunes, to the fast corridors and intense boss fight of episode 4. The first game is full of astounding set pieces. This time, though, I appreciated just how well designed the levels are in Zwei. They may not have that wow factor but they have fantastic design combined with much more refined gameplay. I'm still not sure I would rank it above the original, but I would definitely be more inclined to say that it is on a par. In fact, I'd say that all three saturn panzer games are equally magnificent.
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Post by jobal on Aug 7, 2020 11:14:18 GMT
Zwei is my fav.
One of my favourite Saturn moments, is turning the lights off, turning the hifi up and playing episode 3, the atmosphere is something else.
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Post by Team Andromeda on Aug 8, 2020 7:09:26 GMT
Panzer Dragoon features much better Art design, end of level bosses and music.
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