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Post by zyrobs on Jan 15, 2011 20:15:13 GMT
In addition to this I've noticed that while older versions of SSF play the chip music slightly too fast, it would seem the newer versions play the music a little too slow on some games still (although on many games the emulation of sound is very accurate now) Could be just a framerate issue.
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Post by fisher007 on Jan 28, 2011 12:10:40 GMT
I played Panzer dragoon sage with this one. It sucks...Wierd graphic glitches and freezes
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Post by Anthaemia. on Jan 3, 2012 2:36:43 GMT
I was pulling my hair out as a result of Panzer Dragoon Saga randomly freezing, but in the end I discovered it's something to do with a combination of making sure the "auto field skip" option is enabled and having a system capable of running this game in SSF at full speed. For some reason (probably because it relies on the Saturn's various components synchronising perfectly to create many of its visuals, though I'm only guessing on the exact cause of this particular issue), PDS is one of the more hit-and-miss titles I've been able to emulate.
Of course, others are far more difficult to get working this well - mostly 3D fighters, which really seem to be quite taxing in general. I'm now using a brand new computer with plenty of memory plus a multi-core processor, and still the likes of Dead Or Alive, Virtua Fighter 2 and Anarchy In The Nippon aren't quite full speed. Everything else seems to be near flawless, with the exception of a few still unsupported titles that either don't work at all or are quite glitchy, and I can even get Model 2 games running flawlessly! Unfortunately, it seems that Model 3 and polygonal Saturn fighting titles will have to wait a little longer yet...
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Post by Aydan on Jan 3, 2012 3:05:17 GMT
Good to know my 17 year old saturn can run games better than a modern PC in 2012.
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Post by Anthaemia. on Jan 3, 2012 3:21:02 GMT
Aye, she's a powerhouse!
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Post by zyrobs on Jan 3, 2012 20:15:18 GMT
>probably because it relies on the Saturn's various components synchronising perfectly to create many of its visuals
PDS does nothing of the sorts.
>the likes of Dead Or Alive, Virtua Fighter 2 and Anarchy In The Nippon aren't quite full speed
untick "deinterlace (very slow)".
Any Core 2 or Phenom 2 or more powerful cpu should run SSF fullspeed, unless you use the deinterlace mode.
>Good to know my 17 year old saturn can run games better than a modern PC in 2012.
Yeah, but a modern PC can do a few billion other things better. So it's stupid to make such comparisons.
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Post by Aydan on Jan 3, 2012 23:53:20 GMT
Hey dick wad, it's called satire Learn 2 context plix0r.
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Post by zyrobs on Jan 4, 2012 20:26:43 GMT
It would only be funny if there weren't so many retards who actually use it as an argument against emulators.
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Post by Aydan on Jan 4, 2012 22:09:24 GMT
an arguement against emulators? wut?
Emulation is a handy thing for sure, but owning original hardware and playing games correctly without graphics glitches or random issues is far more satisfying. Enjoying a true experience such as the legend of zelda ocarina of time the way it was intended without hrorible graphics glitches, dodgy movie playback or whaever else which takes you from the immersion is a negative thing. Hell I love emulators for everything under the 32 bit generation of systems since its emulation is near flawless. Any generation above 16 bit however just isn't as flawless without such artifacts and issues which while still minor, are still issues. I tried to run several psone games via emulation and hjad nothing but trouble, and no I'm not some noob with emulation, I used many plugins different settings and my pc is not some average PoS either, if it can run modern games on full settings emulation should be a breeze.
Also da only retard in diz forum is yuu. so gtfo plx.
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Post by Willja on Jan 4, 2012 22:19:55 GMT
The British sense of humour definitely doesn't translate very well at times!
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Post by mick_aka on Jan 5, 2012 20:41:42 GMT
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Post by Aydan on Jan 5, 2012 22:09:02 GMT
^ I know right. I lol'd.
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Post by Anthaemia. on Jan 8, 2012 16:49:28 GMT
>probably because it relies on the Saturn's various components synchronising perfectly to create many of its visuals PDS does nothing of the sorts. >the likes of Dead Or Alive, Virtua Fighter 2 and Anarchy In The Nippon aren't quite full speed untick "deinterlace (very slow)". Any Core 2 or Phenom 2 or more powerful cpu should run SSF fullspeed, unless you use the deinterlace mode. >Good to know my 17 year old saturn can run games better than a modern PC in 2012. Yeah, but a modern PC can do a few billion other things better. So it's stupid to make such comparisons. First of all, I very rarely have deinterlacing enabled, and yet the speed of certain 3D fighters is nowhere near perfect. Also, I'm fairly sure that Panzer Dragoon Saga does indeed use several processors to render and then layer transparency effects over polygonal objects. Whatever the case, even my latest system has minor problems with emulating the Saturn, which is testament to just how complicated Sega's original design was!
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Post by zyrobs on Jan 8, 2012 17:51:50 GMT
If the speed is not right, then the CPU in your machine is just too weak. On the Core 2 Duo I got, everything is full speed (except with deinterlacing). This is a 4+ year old machine.
Panzer Dragoon Saga does not use any more "system components" than pretty much any other Saturn game. And it doesn't use many transparent effects either, the little it does are either mesh effects, or background overlays, both which have 0 speed cost. The one or two sprite-tosprite transparencies it uses are minor enough that they don't cause slowdown (the bonfire in the camp, the green particles when healing, etc). If you think about it, PDS doesn't really do anything but the most basic graphics tasks. It never renders huge scenes, it never renders huge amount of enemies at the same time. It's the art style that makes it look wonderful, not the technical innovation.
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Post by mick_aka on Jan 9, 2012 22:13:22 GMT
On the Core 2 Duo I got, everything is full speed Everything? you've run every game? I'm just curious as when running titles on my workstation to take new screengrabs I definitely recall some slowdown, freezing and still a few titles it wouldn't boot at all. That's on a Core i7 with 16GB of RAM.
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