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Post by Oho on Feb 10, 2013 23:10:39 GMT
I think many PPL felt that VF3 was actually a slump in the VF franchise, but if I were honest, I never really had a real opinion on it. I had the DC version, but it never grabbed me like VF2 did. Now... I know that it's no secret that Genki handled the DC port and that it was met with mixed review, but I'll ask you (as you seem to have the most experience) - is there really THAT much disparity between how the DC and M3 versions play?In a word, no and the graphical deficiencies are really minor. IMO those "writers" back in the day who made it out that it was a bad port had an agenda because it's simply not true. These people used it as a stick to beat the Dreamcast with and it was 100% bs. Sure it could have done with a few more months of development to put in some of the missing effects and some more polygons for the fighters but it was a better port than any of those crappy Tekken games the British press seemed to love so much. Yes, I am still slightly bitter.  Amen, sister. VF3TB is an excellent game. |
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Post by Oho on Feb 10, 2013 23:12:37 GMT
In a word, no and the graphical deficiencies are really minor. IMO those "writers" back in the day who made it out that it was a bad port had an agenda because it's simply not true. These people used it as a stick to beat the Dreamcast with and it was 100% bs. Sure it could have done with a few more months of development to put in some of the missing effects and some more polygons for the fighters but it was a better port than any of those crappy Tekken games the British press seemed to love so much. Yes, I am still slightly bitter. OK, FAIR ENOUGH SYNT... that's good to hear, because whenever I've played it, I've never had any issues with it... unlike their SEGA Rally 2 'effort'  Oh, Tekken's great btw. But then again, I love most fighting games. I've certainly ALWAYS loved my Tekkens, VF's and DOA's, with only DOA starting to fall off at 4 imo. But certainly, graphically speaking Tekken 3 and VF3 were not comparable, as Model 3 gfx were just obscene at the time... I love Tekken (all editions except for the first game). |
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Post by NeoGeoNinja on Feb 11, 2013 10:11:27 GMT
I love Tekken (all editions except for the first game). *SHARP INTAKE OF BREATH THROUGH CLENCHED TEETH*... Careful! |
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Post by NeoGeoNinja on Feb 11, 2013 10:24:33 GMT
ALSO... I forgot to mention earlier that I voted Sarah yesterday, so nice to see another vote for her. I'm working on her 'new' self in VF5FS. She's a bit of a pain in the arse though as she changes so dramatically from game to game, unlike (say) Kage who remains fairly consistent in the moves/techniques dept. Jacky too. Seems SEGA are never happy with Sarah though... no matter how many times I try to relearn her. I was happiest with her in VF3/VF4 though personally. She's seems bad-ass in FS (much more so than in vanilla VF5) but overly complicated/fussy - switching stances and all that shite. After VF4 Evo, seems everyone MUST HAVE various fighting stances. Blah Blah Blah into fighting stance... Blah Blah Blah into defensive stance *yawn*  |
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Post by Oho on Feb 11, 2013 11:50:43 GMT
I voted for Lau. It's a tie between Lau, Akira, Jeffry and Jacky. Since Akira already had a vote, I just selected next in the list that I like.
The problems you mention with Sarah is why I don't like her in later games. I enjoy her in VF1 and 2.
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Post by Syntesis on Feb 11, 2013 13:46:36 GMT
I use the character whose win quotes constitute psychological warfare.
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Post by cryptkiller on Mar 5, 2013 2:42:22 GMT
The Dreamcast got beaten with a big stick from launch day,companies such as EA games refused to make games for it because of the Saturn, admitedly the Saturns short comings where Segas fault and they should have given better documentation on programing it right from the start.
If this had happened dreamcast could have been a big success, it is and was as good as the PS2, but it was born in to a world that was going to hate it,
VF3 is a great fighter no doubt about it, was one of the first games i bought for my dreamcast and i got my dreamcast on launchday, i will never forget that day,
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Post by infernalcombustion on Mar 5, 2013 13:47:57 GMT
The Dreamcast got beaten with a big stick from launch day,companies such as EA games refused to make games for it because of the Saturn, admitedly the Saturns short comings where Segas fault and they should have given better documentation on programing it right from the start. If this had happened dreamcast could have been a big success, it is and was as good as the PS2, but it was born in to a world that was going to hate it, VF3 is a great fighter no doubt about it, was one of the first games i bought for my dreamcast and i got my dreamcast on launchday, i will never forget that day, To address your first comment - I think in the case of the Dreamcast (as with the Saturn), many of the retailers weren't interested in selling them once the PS2 was launched. I remember a friend of mine saying how amazing Soul Caliber looked playing in a shop window display and promptly went in to buy the game in question. However, he was advised by the shop assistants to buy a PS2 (which was apparently 100% better) and convinced by them that the game would be released in a few weeks for the system (which it wasn't)!! I think it's also important to note that at this point in time the Playstation brand had become synonymous with video games - in much the same way that Nintendo had in the late eighties and early nineties. Whereas conversely of course, Sega's once 'cool' image had been irredeemably sullied as far as both the public and the industry were concerned. The offshoot of this was that the Dreamcast was always going to be faced with an uphill struggle in the marketplace. It really wouldn't have mattered who had supported it, what exclusives it garnered or even if it's spec's had far outshone the PS2. For Sega however, it really was their last chance saloon hardware-wise.  --- Anyway, before I drag this thread any further off-topic.... Why hasn't KAGE been added to the poll options Yet?   |
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Post by zyrobs on Mar 5, 2013 22:25:41 GMT
Many companies refused to support the DC because they didn't see the point in investing on another Sega console that will disappear completely in 1-2 years, like all their previous hardware. Plus there was the PS2 "just around the corner", at the time the most hyped game console ever.
For Electronic Arts, they probably also didn't like that their sports games had *actual competition* on the DC, by Sega themselves.
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Post by cryptkiller on Mar 6, 2013 2:14:12 GMT
not strictly true megadrive/genesis
October 29, 1988
PAL November 30, 1990
Discontinued
1997,1999
and to this day there are remakes kicking around
I believe the Saturn was primarily a 2D machine this is what its good at Sega made the mistake of making it weak when it came to 3D it can do it but not without a lot of work, by the time Sega realised the problems it was too late and they pushed it out and the rest as they say is history.
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Post by zyrobs on Mar 9, 2013 20:34:59 GMT
Megadrive was discontinued far earlier officially, and while the MD was out they were, at the same time, pushing the Mega CD from 1991 (killed by early-mid 94 in anticipation of the Saturn), and the 32x (killed in a year). Also there was the Game Gear and the Pico inbetween, plus Master System was still going in some markets. And then in a few years the rumors started coming out of yet another new machine.
Compared to that, Sonys deal was a thousand times better at the time.
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Post by Anthaemia. on Mar 9, 2013 23:59:14 GMT
The forum member known as "Anthaemia." refuses to acknowledge this thread further while the existence of Kage Maru is denied in the poll... but at least you all get a break from another of my VF3 themed rants until this situation is rectified!
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Post by pulstar on Mar 16, 2013 13:00:12 GMT
I voted Shun...how can you deny a little Japanese man that can beat most everybody even when they're drunk...go into any town/city centre on a Saturday night and see how the drunken clubbers fight then you'll realise he is a god.
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Post by NeoGeoNinja on Mar 16, 2013 13:46:12 GMT
I voted Shun...how can you deny a little Japanese man... YEEAAH... pretty sure he's Chinese dude. There probably are Japanese practitioners of Kung Fu in the world, but it's inherently Chinese tbh. Plus he's called Shun Di I'm not being anti-racist or a dick. Just letting you know |
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Post by Nick1984 on Mar 20, 2013 10:05:39 GMT
The forum member known as "Anthaemia." refuses to acknowledge this thread further while the existence of Kage Maru is denied in the poll... but at least you all get a break from another of my VF3 themed rants until this situation is rectified! Can't edit the poll unfortunately  |
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