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Post by redtail on Sept 11, 2013 11:18:00 GMT
Then the problem is either in your cd image or your virtual cd software. I've tried using multiple virtual cd programs. It's not that. I've tried different rips of the games too. If you want to PM me a link to what you think is a clean image of either Galactic Attack or Panzer Dragoon, I'll try it, but I don't think that's the issue.
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Post by zyrobs on Sept 11, 2013 17:31:19 GMT
The one you create from your own discs are the cleanest rips
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Post by redtail on Nov 3, 2013 19:51:05 GMT
I'm thinking it might be my onboard sound that's causing the problem. I flushed some cash on a cheapo Soundblaster X-Fi Go! USB soundcard to test this theory, but it's not working with Windows 8 and the updated drivers on Creative's website won't even install, so I'm back to square one.
Did find a possible workaround though. I don't have any problems using ISOs that utilize MP3s. Unfortunately, they're pretty hard to find nowadays. I tried straight up converting a few ISOs that use WAV into MP3 and modifying the cue sheet in notepad, but this either causes the game to crash or load with no sound.
Frustrating...
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Post by zyrobs on Nov 4, 2013 3:03:41 GMT
If using iso/mp3 caused less skipping, then the problem is most likely in your virtual drive application... or alternatively, the hard drive in your machine is not fast enough to read the WAVs, which is unlikely, but not impossible given high enough drive fragmentation.
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Post by redtail on Nov 4, 2013 4:05:06 GMT
If using iso/mp3 caused less skipping, then the problem is most likely in your virtual drive application... or alternatively, the hard drive in your machine is not fast enough to read the WAVs, which is unlikely, but not impossible given high enough drive fragmentation. Doesn't seem to matter what virtual drive I use. Alcohol 120%, Daemon Tools, and CloneDVD all render the audio the same way. Problem must be with my HD then. I may just buy an external drive on Black Friday or Cyber Monday, load some of my more important files onto it, and wipe my current HD. Do you think that will resolve the problem? In the meantime, is there any chance I could get you to take a look at one of the ISO/WAV files I tried to convert to ISO/MP3 so maybe you can figure out what's wrong. I thought all you needed to do was convert WAV to MP3 and rewrite the .cue file accordingly, but maybe I'm missing something... I'll send you a PM if you're willing.
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Post by zyrobs on Nov 4, 2013 21:10:57 GMT
Go ahead, though I doubt I'll see any problems. The issue is most likely software related on your end (either the virtual cd software, the chipset drivers, or the audio drivers).
I'd run a defrag first instead of buying a whole new hdd, unless you need a new hdd for other reasons too.
Converting the files to mp3 and rewriting the cue sheet is indeed all you have to do, but be aware that you must have the files named correctly (Windows hides file extensions by default, so you may have ended up with "track01.mp3.mp3"), and that some virtual CD software does not support mp3 in the cuesheet. You also have to change the cue line "track01.wav WAVE" to "track01.wav MPEG", I believe.
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Post by redtail on Nov 5, 2013 2:45:58 GMT
Go ahead, though I doubt I'll see any problems. The issue is most likely software related on your end (either the virtual cd software, the chipset drivers, or the audio drivers). I'd run a defrag first instead of buying a whole new hdd, unless you need a new hdd for other reasons too. I've run defrag before. Didn't make a difference. I always set Windows to show extension and hidden folders. The tracks do have the correct file extensions. Something else is fouling it up.
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Post by redtail on Nov 6, 2013 8:06:47 GMT
Alright, sent ya a PM w/ the ROM. Thanks in advance!
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Post by zyrobs on Nov 6, 2013 19:24:49 GMT
The cuesheet looks fine, you need to use a mounting tool that supports mp3 however. Daemon Tools does not.
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Post by redtail on Nov 6, 2013 21:01:17 GMT
The cuesheet looks fine, you need to use a mounting tool that supports mp3 however. Daemon Tools does not. Looks like I was mounting the ISO itself w/ my Leynos 2 ISO/MP3. Everything worked fine with that. It doesn't work w/ Sega Touring Car though. Looks like you're right about CUE/MP3 not being supported by Daemon Tools. I've installed half-a-dozen different virtual drives on my computer and can't get a single one to mount a CUE that refers to MP3s. Fuck, why does everything have to be so difficult?
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Post by zyrobs on Nov 6, 2013 21:47:54 GMT
Oh, if that one game mounted right because you mounted the iso, then using mp3 versus wav will not make a difference as far as scratched audio goes.
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Post by buckoa51 on Nov 6, 2013 22:36:25 GMT
Personally I doubt it's the hard drive failing to keep up. My bet is on DPC latency. Can you try disabling all your network cards?
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Post by redtail on Nov 8, 2013 0:46:18 GMT
Personally I doubt it's the hard drive failing to keep up. My bet is on DPC latency. Can you try disabling all your network cards? Went into Device Manager and disabled everything under Network Adapaters. The issue persists.
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Post by zyrobs on Nov 8, 2013 1:58:03 GMT
Try updating motherboard chipset, sata/ide controller, and audio drivers, or try downgrading them to the default Microsoft provided ones, if there are any. I've found that for a few devices, the manufacturer provided drivers tend to be worse. Also try changing between ide/ahci modes on the motherboard, maybe it helps. Try disabling C3/6 hardware sleep and power saving modes. Alternatively just try closing any running apps in the task manager to see if they help improving. When watching I noticed Disk 0 has a spike in activity when you had a audio skip. Maybe this is just an issue of the software trying to read the data fast enough. Yeah, I think that will be the thing to invest. Something introduces lag for the HDD reading, holding up things, including the cd audio. Could be that you need to enable HDD caching in the device manager. Or disable them, whichever helps. What hard drive do you have by the way? Does it happen to be a Western Digital Green? If so, it might be caused by the head parking issue.
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Post by redtail on Nov 8, 2013 2:48:59 GMT
Try updating motherboard chipset, sata/ide controller, and audio drivers, or try downgrading them to the default Microsoft provided ones, if there are any. I've found that for a few devices, the manufacturer provided drivers tend to be worse. Also try changing between ide/ahci modes on the motherboard, maybe it helps. Try disabling C3/6 hardware sleep and power saving modes. Alternatively just try closing any running apps in the task manager to see if they help improving. When watching I noticed Disk 0 has a spike in activity when you had a audio skip. Maybe this is just an issue of the software trying to read the data fast enough. Yeah, I think that will be the thing to invest. Something introduces lag for the HDD reading, holding up things, including the cd audio. Could be that you need to enable HDD caching in the device manager. Or disable them, whichever helps. What hard drive do you have by the way? Does it happen to be a Western Digital Green? If so, it might be caused by the head parking issue. I'll have to read up on how to do some of that stuff. The HD is a SAMSUNG Spinpoint M8 ST1000LM024 though.
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