Capturing Saturn Footage Problems!

[tomlad]

Hey all, im hoping to start making my own video game reviews and suchlike, and one of my main consoles of focus plans to be the saturn.
Now, ive got an ADSTech DVD XPress2 USB video capturing device, which captures via svideo and composite and for the LIFE of me, i cannot get the saturn to record anything into this program which is called CapWiz (supplied with the hardware).

Ive got every type of saturn cable imaginable, and ive tried the following to no success;
direct from saturn to capture device via svideo - sound but no video
direct from saturn to capture device via composite - sound but no video
direct from saturn to vcr to capture device (via saturn scart lead in and composite out)- sound but no video
recording the saturn onto a vhs and then recording the vhs onto the capture device, sound and _some_ video.

The last method is giving me the best results, (if you can call them best). Basically i always seem to get audio no problem, and via the vhs tape i can get little bits of saturn video during playback (it recorded perfectly). But if i fast forward or rewind the tape, i can see everything clearly in the software program! only when i go to play the tape as normal that i experience problems.

the usb capture device works fine with vhs as i have converted a couple of old videos before, and it plays the old programmes that are recorded onto the tape i used fine, but when it gets to the saturn footage, it doesent want to play.

Phew! anyone got any suggestions on what to do? ive tried almost everything i can think of. is the saturn transmitting pictures at a higher frequency than my capture device can record? i.e. 60hz or something?

p.s. im from the UK and have a UK PAL console.
any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
thankyou!

[mick_aka]

Sounds like your capture settings are wrong, make sure you have it set to PAL-B or PAL-G either should work for UK consoles and make sure you have the appropriate input selected.

Difficult for me to help further, I capture saturn footage direct to DV Tape and then over to the PC via firewire into Adobe Premiere.

[tomlad]

hey man, i tried every type of pal setting availiable within the software to no success!

[Snowcat.]

try, the other settings just out of interest. Although it could also be a problem with the wires

and Adobe Premiere EWWWWWW

[mick_aka]

What's wrong with premiere? lol

In fairness all my editing is done with final cut but for a bit of quick vid cap premiere is the shiz.

[rossi46]

I've not used Premier for capturing console footage but I've edited DV for 10 years using Premier 6 onwards. It took two years to learn it properly, but I'm so glad I persevered. Apart from Final Cut, Premier is the only pro package I would trust with my precious footage.

[tomlad]

Apr 23, 2009 0:09:18 GMT Snowcat. said:

try, the other settings just out of interest. Although it could also be a problem with the wires

and Adobe Premiere EWWWWWW

ive literally tried everything. and as for the wires, they all work fine through my tv and vcr?

im baffled anyway

[Madroms]

does another console work with your capture card in pal format (like snes, gamecube,...) ?
If so, the pb is not your capture card but the format delivered by the saturn: its pal format is not well recognized by all the capture card available on sale. I have the same pb with my own capture card with pal saturn (no pb with ntsc saturn).

[Snowcat.]

Apr 23, 2009 7:30:37 GMT mick_aka said:

What's wrong with premiere? lol

In fairness all my editing is done with final cut but for a bit of quick vid cap premiere is the shiz.

if you want it done quick used Movie Maker every ones "free" friend XD

but yes ;] all editing should be done on Final Cut, and in drastic moments of people actually understand it Avid

also
...If it works with other consoles im stumped :/

[chizzles]

Your capture card probably doesn't like the Resolutions the saturn outputs, have you tried High resolution and low resolution games?

Virtua Fighter 2 = Hi res, Burning Rangers = Lo Res

I have a USB capture device that only displays anything in Lo Res for a split second before buggering off to a blank screen.

[digichan]

hmmm i should try premiere too.. I've been using windows movie maker XD

[RealBlue]

Back in the day (about 3 years ago) I used to use a combination of Ulead vid studio & Movie maker. Movie maker is extremely primitive in terms of options & effects but can't be beat for ease of use. So i used to capture everything with that then do all the editing & encoding with vid studio.