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Post by retroplayer on Dec 31, 2010 17:24:18 GMT
If possible I'd prefer the model 1 though as I already have a few backups from friends and I hear doing the swap trick is much easier on a model 1. If anyone can help with those last few questions above I'd be greatful.
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Post by swedishmeat87 on Dec 31, 2010 18:12:50 GMT
lol model 1 looks old and ugly also its a shit to take apart and put together again damn much more easy with model 2 model 2 is hot as hell ! Its really easy to do the swap trick on model 2 for a normal persson.
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Post by superdeadite on Jan 1, 2011 14:56:00 GMT
Model 1>2.
The fuse information is printed on the pcb under the fuse. When you remove the old one, you'll see what the Saturn requires.
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Post by retroplayer on Jan 1, 2011 16:54:29 GMT
Hmmm I'm really at odds about what I should do. So, what are the chances that even if I replace the fuse, buy an American plug, RGB Scart and step down transformer that it doesn't work and that all along there was also something else dammaged? I mean, from those pics I posted can any of you guys see a problem other than the blown fuse and he fried VR1 (which I don't think I need)? Sorry about all the questions but i'm not only a major newbie when it comes to the Saturn but as far as opening up a gaming system it's like a foreign language to me. That said, I do know someone who would sodler it for me so it's no big deal.
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Post by retroplayer on Jan 1, 2011 21:04:51 GMT
Ok, I've made a decision. i'm going to keep the US Saturn. However, apart from replacing the fuse I'll need a step down tranformer. Seeing as I live in Europe what kind would I be looking for. This one? www.robwebb1.plus.com/saturn/saturnhard.htm(Scroll down 2 items) It says 230V to 110V but the Saturn, according to the back of it, says it is 120v. i'm confused. By the way, if anyone out there wants to sell me a US Saturn power cable and/or a sutible step down transformer I'd be willing to buy.
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Post by sfgsgvs on Jan 2, 2011 9:45:24 GMT
Keep in mind that if you keep the US machine you won't be able to play games optimized for 50hz without overscan. Maybe you can 50/60hz switch a US machine, I've never looked into it. I would just return it and buy a cheap PAL model 2. The swap trick is really easy if you use the single-swap-method, it goes like this:
1. Cold boot with backup and wait until it's recognized as an audio CD. 2. Change disc to any original game, even out of region ones works, and press the reset button. 3. Wait for the disc to spin up after the "white flash" during the boot, now quickly stop it with you thumb and change disc to backup.
It's called the single-swap-method as you only have to change discs while it's spinning once instead of 2-3 times with other methods. The first step can take ages for some games, but if you pad the backup with audio tracks so the disc is 60+ minutes it will just take a few seconds.
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Post by buckoa51 on Jan 2, 2011 11:19:06 GMT
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Post by sfgsgvs on Jan 2, 2011 11:39:34 GMT
Having a true 60hz output machine is always going to be better than a 50hz one (yes even with a mod) Why is that, something with the VDPs being underclocked on PAL systems? I've never noticed any difference between my switch-modded PAL unit and my V-saturn, except for clearer picture as the PAL unit can handle a normal RGB cable It's really convenient not having to use a stepdown converter and just being able to flip a switch if a game is PAL optimized.
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Post by buckoa51 on Jan 2, 2011 11:55:09 GMT
Because PAL60 is a nonstandard signal and different from true NTSC, some equipment struggles with the weird sync signal from a PAL60 source.
NTSC Saturns output RGB just fine. In fact there is an extra pin for composite sync on Japanese consoles (not sure about USA models).
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Post by retroplayer on Jan 2, 2011 15:09:08 GMT
Many thanks for the repsonses. Yeah, I may just buy a Euro Saturn and sell the model 1 for parts. I mean, if the swap method is that easy I think it's my best option. Who knows, more than just the fuse could have been damaged. I guess it would be foolish to buy a plug, scart,step doen stranformer and to solder a new fuse only to have it still not work. :/
Still mulling it over though! Thanks for the repsonses. You've all been extremely helpful.
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Post by clerksfan4life on Jan 3, 2011 11:45:45 GMT
Just sell the US Saturn. It would save you a lot of hassle!
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Post by mick_aka on Jan 3, 2011 15:17:32 GMT
I'll take the US Saturn off your hands retro...
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Post by retroplayer on Jan 3, 2011 15:57:50 GMT
Yeah, I've made my choice. I'm going to buy a EU Saturn.
Also, you want to make an offer, Mick?
EDIT- By the way, thanks for all the suggestions and help, guys! Once I get my working Saturn I'm very much looking forward in sticking with this community!
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Post by mick_aka on Jan 3, 2011 16:01:30 GMT
What do you want for it? I'm only after it for parts.
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Post by retroplayer on Jan 3, 2011 17:41:08 GMT
Tell you what, I'll think about it once I get my hands on my EU Saturn. I may end up getting rid of the US Saturn but I also might- though it is unlikely- hold onto it and try and fix it over time. Thanks
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