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Post by paulgt4rc on Jul 31, 2011 10:26:09 GMT
I did searched the forum but found nothing on this. My Saturn will not save the date and time, I have to enter it each time I turn it on. Yes I have changed the battery, 3 times with 3 different brand new sealed CR2032 batteries but none work. I checked the Saturn manual and it says to wipe the top of the battery with a dry cloth... which I also tried but still no luck. And it is the right way up with the writing on the battery facing up Is this a known issue with Saturn's or am I just missing something? Many thanks Paul
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Post by Aydan on Jul 31, 2011 10:30:05 GMT
If you've tried new batteries it must be a hardware fault of the machine. Did you have to really force the battery in/out of its slot? if so maybe the battery isnt touching the connector fully or something?
Other than that maybe the poor Saturn's just had it.
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Post by mick_aka on Jul 31, 2011 10:31:46 GMT
Check to see if your model of saturn has the tiny reset button on the bottom of the battery compartment when you open it, if so hold that down for a few seconds with battery in.
Also shine a light in there and check that the battery terminals have no corrosion on them, this can prevent the battery from working correctly and can be easily cleaned off with a nail file.
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Post by zyrobs on Jul 31, 2011 11:26:50 GMT
Does it fail to save into the internal memory as well? You can have the date reseted without the internal memory being touched, though it's uncommon to happen - the SMPC chip has to lose power for this to happen. If this happen, probably something inbetween the battery and the SMPC is broken.
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Post by paulgt4rc on Jul 31, 2011 17:56:10 GMT
Check to see if your model of saturn has the tiny reset button on the bottom of the battery compartment when you open it, if so hold that down for a few seconds with battery in. Also shine a light in there and check that the battery terminals have no corrosion on them, this can prevent the battery from working correctly and can be easily cleaned off with a nail file. No reset button, I found a picture of the button and its not on mine. Battery terminal looks clean.. tried yet another battery and handled it as to not touch eaither the top or bottom but still no luck Thanks for the help anyway.
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Post by paulgt4rc on Jul 31, 2011 18:07:21 GMT
Does it fail to save into the internal memory as well? You can have the date reseted without the internal memory being touched, though it's uncommon to happen - the SMPC chip has to lose power for this to happen. If this happen, probably something inbetween the battery and the SMPC is broken. Thanks for the reply. It saves to the internal memory but the save is wiped when the machine is turned off and on.
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Post by paulgt4rc on Jul 31, 2011 18:17:28 GMT
If you've tried new batteries it must be a hardware fault of the machine. Did you have to really force the battery in/out of its slot? if so maybe the battery isnt touching the connector fully or something? Other than that maybe the poor Saturn's just had it. Im thinking your right about the last bit.. not the end of the world as I have a save cart.. its just a pain
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Post by mick_aka on Jul 31, 2011 20:26:15 GMT
hang fire.... what the smeg is that purple wire in the pic?
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Post by Aydan on Jul 31, 2011 20:34:59 GMT
looks like a 60hz mod, some saturns with a certain motherboard can be modded with literally a toiggle switch being soldered to 2 points near the battery area.
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Post by mick_aka on Jul 31, 2011 23:43:43 GMT
The sure way to test this is to solder to the battery terminals on the motherboard and try using an external battery holder.
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Post by zyrobs on Aug 1, 2011 0:36:59 GMT
The sure way to test this is to solder to the battery terminals on the motherboard and try using an external battery holder. I'd check the battery holder with a multimeter first, see if it's living or not to begin with. Maybe some diode PNP transistor just gave out between the battery holder and the internal ram IC. The caps are rock solid on the Saturn, but the diodes and transistors burn out all the time if they get the wrong voltage or a short (maybe just connecting the battery backwards is enough for that).
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Post by paulgt4rc on Aug 1, 2011 11:12:45 GMT
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Post by paulgt4rc on Aug 1, 2011 11:16:36 GMT
The sure way to test this is to solder to the battery terminals on the motherboard and try using an external battery holder. I'd check the battery holder with a multimeter first, see if it's living or not to begin with. Maybe some diode PNP transistor just gave out between the battery holder and the internal ram IC. The caps are rock solid on the Saturn, but the diodes and transistors burn out all the time if they get the wrong voltage or a short (maybe just connecting the battery backwards is enough for that). Ill give this a go, I have a multimeter so Ill check the battery holder. Im not familiar with diodes or transistors.. I may come back to you for some guidence
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