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Post by notshane on Feb 9, 2016 1:20:13 GMT
Some emulator. "Best Saturn emulator" fails to detect controller inputs. Guess it ain't so hot after all ಠ_ಠ
Oh, by the way, yeah it failed again. I already wasted over a grand on this PC rig I have and one of the reasons was to run SSF at full speed, so I am not gonna give up on getting this to work. I pulled so many hours into it, having a blast playing all of those games with true graphical enhancements never found on a real Saturn and at full 60fps for most games before it gave out on me, so I will do whatever it takes to regain this experience again.
With that being said, I'm afraid this forum has reached its limits since all of the solutions have failed me, so I must search for answers elsewhere. It has been appreciated to have this thread last as long as it has, but now I must figure out a way to contact the creator of this emulator as he will be the only one that can help me now. Too bad he has no means of contact besides Twitter, given you can't directly send someone a message through Twitter at all. At least, that I'm aware of. I'm slow on social media, but it doesn't help that he is Japanese, either. Maybe if I just send that same image, he'll figure it out.
I mean, certainly, he must have an English interpreter or at least know SOME English.
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Post by zyrobs on Feb 9, 2016 3:01:35 GMT
Have you tried just deleting the INI files for SSF? Sometimes old settings get stuck and cause problems.
And you can just include the guys twitter handle with a @ before, and he'll get the message. But chances are he'll ignore it since you are rambling at this point. Instead of wasting a grand on a PC to play Saturn games on, you should've bought a modded Saturn for a tenth of the price.
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Post by Lilith on Feb 9, 2016 4:42:43 GMT
"given you can't directly send someone a message through Twitter at all"
There is a Direct Message system..
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Post by notshane on Feb 9, 2016 15:27:33 GMT
Have you tried just deleting the INI files for SSF? Sometimes old settings get stuck and cause problems. And you can just include the guys twitter handle with a @ before, and he'll get the message. But chances are he'll ignore it since you are rambling at this point. Instead of wasting a grand on a PC to play Saturn games on, you should've bought a modded Saturn for a tenth of the price. I've played a Saturn through other means, but the games I play on SSF run significantly better in comparison; most notably, Waku Waku 7, Nocturne in the Moonlight (oh goodness, did the graphical effects get fixed up WELL on that emulator) and a few others that had frame dips here and there. I should've mentioned it earlier, but I have played a real Saturn and I was not satisfied with the way it ran a few of the games. One of the reasons why I am trying so hard to get this to work in the first place is because I knew how much better those games looked and ran on SSF, so I was willing to put in the effort. But, the thing is, I thought this would be as easy as replacing a controller plugin or that the error would've been resolved once I searched that error dialogue. It was quite shocking that I was the first, but at the same time, if I can get it resolved, I NEED to share it here to help others because if it's so unique that I can only find myself talking about it on this thread, then many more must have the issue and are lacking answers themselves. That is one reason why I strive to never give up on this error, as I am thinking of both myself (being able to play those games in great quality and frames again) and others, too. By the way, which ".ini" file should I delete? I see two. One says "Setting" and another says "SSF" I want to be careful on which one I delete. There is a Direct Message system.. Didn't I mention that I am slow on social media? I thought Twitter only let you post statuses
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Post by caseh on Feb 9, 2016 17:22:51 GMT
Some emulator. "Best Saturn emulator" fails to detect controller inputs. Guess it ain't so hot after all ಠ_ಠ Haha dude you are clearly missing something, it works for everyone else. Like literally, EVERYONE else. As you keep saying, you're the only one with this issue yet it used to work for you. The fact you're asking which ini file (In response to Zyrobs) to delete tells me you have no idea what you're doing.
If you had used clean builds, then this step is effectively covered and your response, a constructive response to that would read something like "No point in clearing the .ini files, I've tried several builds with the default settings and I have the same issue".
I'm not trying to be harsh or anything here, but you're kinda beyond help at this stage. Handing your setup over to someone else, maybe using team viewer or something similar is the way forward in this case.
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Post by zyrobs on Feb 9, 2016 19:36:26 GMT
By the way, which ".ini" file should I delete? I see two. One says "Setting" and another says "SSF" I want to be careful on which one I delete. You know you can just move them to another folder and then move them back later, right? You don't have to be too careful. Hell just take the emulator zip file and extract it to a new folder, and try setting it up again from there. Also, try the Test Version (the download link is just below the current version), it might run better.
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Post by notshane on Feb 9, 2016 22:04:13 GMT
Haha dude you are clearly missing something, it works for everyone else. Like literally, EVERYONE else. As you keep saying, you're the only one with this issue yet it used to work for you. The fact you're asking which ini file (In response to Zyrobs) to delete tells me you have no idea what you're doing.
If you had used clean builds, then this step is effectively covered and your response, a constructive response to that would read something like "No point in clearing the .ini files, I've tried several builds with the default settings and I have the same issue".
I'm not trying to be harsh or anything here, but you're kinda beyond help at this stage. Handing your setup over to someone else, maybe using team viewer or something similar is the way forward in this case. Honestly, I think you're right. I've been so lost with this and now my only options left are digging deep into the roots and asking a technical person for assistance. Right now, all I'm doing is waiting for a response from the creator that I sent the image to, which I believe he should be able to understand, but who knows. I wish I knew someone in my own town that used this emulator, cause that would be a lot easier. And yeah, I know, you probably tried searching that error too, huh? It's as though I really am the only one with this error. I mean, for you guys, I've seen you tackle other errors before, so you're probably just as interested as I am as to why it suddenly popped up out of nowhere. The strangest part is that it still has all my saved inputs for other games, so I can still play those ones, but simply lack the option to make new inputs; as I've probably said a million times before. And, I'm sorry for being difficult earlier halfway through this thread when I was badgering everyone due to all the help failing. I guess I was losing it a bit there because of the fact that I was the only one with this error. You know you can just move them to another folder and then move them back later, right? You don't have to be too careful. Hell just take the emulator zip file and extract it to a new folder, and try setting it up again from there. Also, try the Test Version (the download link is just below the current version), it might run better. Does SSF do something similar like Dolphin where it made a source folder when I first started it up? Like, how Dolphin has one in "Documents" called "Dolphin Emulator" I was just thinking about that, too. Where, if I deleted such a folder, that it would boot from scratch and I'd be able to set inputs again. I don't think SSF is that elaborate, but it was something that was on my mind. Test version, huh? By "below the current version" you mean the ones you linked in this thread earlier, or the official website? Cause I don't know where the official website for SSF is. I think I got my first build from this one: segaretro.org/SSFSo, is it somewhere around there?
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Post by zyrobs on Feb 9, 2016 23:38:46 GMT
No, SSF does not pollute your computer with crap, it only writes in its own directory. Delete that folder, re-extract the emulator, and try setting it up again.
Yes, the test version is on the official website.
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Post by notshane on Feb 10, 2016 3:49:16 GMT
I mean, this is different. Now it says "Line : 2664" instead of "Line : 2837" but, that is the only thing that happened with the Test version I tried on the website. Oh, by the way, are you SURE that it doesn't separate from its core directory? Because it saved my controller inputs that I made for an ISO that I configured last July and all the controls still function the same and everything. Maybe it does create a separate directory. I am playing the "Test Version" I removed my other one from the computer and it remembered my controller inputs.
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Post by zyrobs on Feb 10, 2016 4:11:45 GMT
If it remembered your controller inputs then either you did not extract the zip files newly and you still have old settings remaining stuck, or you are confusing "my settings" with the "default settings" it assigns to buttons.
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Post by notshane on Feb 10, 2016 7:33:34 GMT
I do not follow. If you said SSF does not create any excess directories to store additional information and I deleted my previous SSF folder before downloading and extracting this new one, then how can it possibly remember my inputs? The only thing I saved from my old SSF was the ISOs and BIOS folders, but nothing else. What do you mean by "my" and "default" settings?
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Post by zyrobs on Feb 10, 2016 19:31:16 GMT
SSF creates its own "excess" directories, but only in its own directory. It does not put crap into system registry or My Documents or AppData folders.
Your settings: the controller mapping you defined. Default settings: the controller mapping that is defined by default. According to the readme they are: UP = UP Arrow DOWN = DOWN Arrow LEFT = LEFT Arrow RIGHT = RIGHT Arrow A TRG = Z key B TRG = X key C TRG = C key X TRG = S key Y TRG = D key Z TRG = F key L TRG = A key R TRG = G key START = Enter key
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Post by notshane on Feb 11, 2016 0:40:11 GMT
SSF creates its own "excess" directories, but only in its own directory. It does not put crap into system registry or My Documents or AppData folders. Your settings: the controller mapping you defined. Default settings: the controller mapping that is defined by default. According to the readme they are: UP = UP Arrow DOWN = DOWN Arrow LEFT = LEFT Arrow RIGHT = RIGHT Arrow A TRG = Z key B TRG = X key C TRG = C key X TRG = S key Y TRG = D key Z TRG = F key L TRG = A key R TRG = G key START = Enter key My goodness. The version of the emulator I had before never responded to keyboard inputs, but this one ("Test" Version) DOES respond to those! So far, every game I've tested that I never mapped inputs to uses the defaults that you listed! I mean, I can't input new ones for a second player at all or even remap first player's own, but it's VERY nice to know I can play these games on the emulator again! And before you ask, yes I did try this with the other SSF versions and it NEVER responded to my keyboard before as I did try to tap into it to see if it had a default input to play with. But, this new "Test" version is the one I am sticking to from now on because it finally responds to my keyboard. Again, not through mapping inputs, but the fact that it has inputs that WORK is the first progress we've made in this entire thread. However, I will still research this further myself to see if I can find a fix for this error for others, too, and cause there are a few co-op games that I want to play with my friends on here, too. That being said, it's no longer a major problem for me not being able to use SSF anymore in general, so that is very nice. But, I assume this "Test" version is prone to bugs, so I hope it doesn't crash too much on me.
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Post by temjin on Feb 11, 2016 8:28:36 GMT
Hi I think I'm having a similar problem, I recently installed an xbox one controller driver for my windows 10 desktop and this started happening, it remains blank and doesn't respond to either keyboard input or controller, have to shut down via task manager. Any idea if there is correlation to topic creator's problem?
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Post by temjin on Feb 11, 2016 8:34:08 GMT
i googled the problem and found this place
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