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Post by retrolove on Oct 7, 2014 19:56:56 GMT
Good evening all. I have a conundrum and would like some sage advice from our fine community here.Recently my purchases seem to be getting more and more expensive and im getting to the point where im thinking of only buying the more expensive games for a while,now im most certainly not a rich man far from it but my logic lately seems to have centred towards what potential savings i could get by buying now as opposed to a couple of years down the line when things most probably will be even more costly. Now im thinking most of the cheaper games will still be kicking around and probably still be pennies in comparison to say battle garegga or mizubaku no daibouken.So i'm wondering what to do and could really do with seeing all points from all perspectives here so over to you fine people and hope you guys can help. Retrolove
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Post by bradcap1 on Oct 7, 2014 21:18:13 GMT
I pulled the trigger on all the expensive games I wanted a couple of years ago and I'm glad I did it then. Two that I held off on are Thunderforce Gold Pack 2 and Cotton Boomerang. TF Gold Pack 2 has held pretty steady price wise but Cotton Boomerang has gotten ridiculous. Taromarou is at a price that I won't even approach. The cheap games do appear to still be pretty cheap.
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Post by retrolove on Oct 7, 2014 22:12:17 GMT
Yeah Cotton Boomerang is out of my price range unless i seriously save for a while.Im just thinking that while able to somewhat be able to buy games like Battle Garegga now i may as well go for it and bite the bullet.There seems to be no ceiling on some of the better games and they keep going up the only exceptions seem to be Radiant Silvergun and Dungeons and Dragons what with the xbox releases.I just bought Elevator Action Returns and that was my first £80 game and a lot of the games i fancy are there or more expensive again.It certainly is an expensive hobby we have. Thanks for the input bradcap im hoping a few other members can give some input so i can see all sides.
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Post by drfreudian on Oct 7, 2014 23:27:26 GMT
Depends whether you're a collector or a player. I do regret selling some neo geo games I had a couple of years ago, particularly as I can't justify the price that they go for now. Took the plunge with PDS recently, mainly because it was a game I always wanted to play but also because the damn thing keeps going up in price. We're always going to pay a bit for our hobby but think how good you'll feel when you get a game for a fair price. I think the other thing is whether you'll play the game enough to justify the price? Someone said on a hi fi forum to try and imagine having to justify the reasons for your purchase to a psychiatrist
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Post by retrolove on Oct 8, 2014 11:02:15 GMT
Yes im a player all my games get a good workout drfreudian,hence im willing to pay up for real good games. If i was just a collector i doubt i would play much,however my saturn gets a daily workout in fact it is the only system i play full stop now.I will never sell it or any of my games and with our hobby being so expensive i am prepared to pay quite handsomely for the right games(if a cheaper price is found il probably do cartwheels ;-). I think i will stay well clear of psychaiatrist as they might stick me in a straight jacket haha. cheers drfreudian if i get a point/counterpoint debate on this fine forum i know i will be getting proper answers from people just as mad as me ;-).
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Post by martiniii on Oct 8, 2014 13:37:15 GMT
I avoid getting the high-priced games at all unless I know I really want them. Even then, I don't jump to pay figures higher than 50 US dollars for three reasons:
1.Often enough, if you just wait you can nab the game at a reasonable price. I didn't pay more than $50 each for my copies of Shining Force III, Panzer Dragoon Saga, and Mega Man X3. 2.I don't have time to play all the games that interest me anyway, so there's no sense in my paying $70 for a Saturn game when I can get an equally good Saturn game in the same genre for $20. And then you bring other consoles into it... $100 for a used copy of a quite possibly dated Saturn game versus $50 for a brand new copy of a game on current generation consoles is a rather uneven contest. 3.I realize that this "buy the game at whatever price they're asking now before it gets even more expensive" mentality is the reason the games keep going up in price in the first place. The reason why there's no limit to how expensive the games can get is because most gamers don't set limits on how much they're willing to pay.
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Post by retrolove on Oct 8, 2014 14:03:07 GMT
Sorry i should have elaborated martiniii i only purchase japanese titles as there was very little attraction to the pal library for me,so there is not that many really expensive(within relation to the pal or ntsc-u markets) games i want.I went import only for that reason and the fact i dont particulary like 3d games. So would your thoughts differ any martiniii knowing im not talking stupidly expensive prices?Or would the same points hold regardless?And as i only buy for the saturn(now and again i dip into the megadrive import scene) would this make a difference?
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Post by Yart on Oct 8, 2014 16:58:09 GMT
Regardless of price, grab Battle Garegga right now. Game is amazing and every shmupper should have it in their collection.
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Post by retrolove on Oct 8, 2014 17:25:23 GMT
That is next on the list regallose,i have played the demo on souky and it is a game i have wanted for a while.As i replied to martiniii as i have a jpn system there are not an awful lot of top dollar games i want,however Battle Garegga,Radiant Sivergun and Batsugun are most definatly on the to buy list.Other genres have a few top priced games i fancy such as Liquid Kids and maybe Tryrush Deppy or Super Tempo. Thanks for the advice regallrose and i think il get Battle Garegga next payday.
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Post by NeoGeoNinja on Oct 8, 2014 22:39:38 GMT
And then you bring other consoles into it... $100 for a used copy of a quite possibly dated Saturn game versus $50 for a brand new copy of a game on current generation consoles is a rather uneven contest. So, are you saying that - in your opinion, A $100 title with infinite replay value isn't worth twice what a modern day gaming title is worth
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Post by martiniii on Oct 9, 2014 1:43:53 GMT
Sorry i should have elaborated martiniii i only purchase japanese titles as there was very little attraction to the pal library for me,so there is not that many really expensive(within relation to the pal or ntsc-u markets) games i want.I went import only for that reason and the fact i dont particulary like 3d games. So would your thoughts differ any martiniii knowing im not talking stupidly expensive prices?Or would the same points hold regardless?And as i only buy for the saturn(now and again i dip into the megadrive import scene) would this make a difference? Sorry, I wasn't really addressing my reply to your particular situation, just sharing my own experiences on the topic. Blame it on my narcissism, since you clearly indicated in both your opening post and the thread title that you were looking for advice. I think, though, that the basic principle holds regardless of the actual amount you're spending. In other words, if you're comfortable spending £100 on a video game and feel that particular game is worth the money to you, then you should go ahead and buy it, but it wouldn't be wise to spend £150 on a game just because that's the going rate. Another thing to consider is whether you're going to actually have the time to play the games. For example, if you buy three games at £20 each, and in three years their prices have gone up to £35 each, on the surface you've saved yourself £45 - but if those games have wound up just sitting on the shelf for those three years, then in essence you've wasted £60. All that said, I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with going all out and getting all the expensive games you want first. You just have to be careful that you don't wind up spending more rather than less. As far as Japanese games go, though, I was under the impression that there are just as many really expensive titles as there are really expensive PAL or NA titles? There's Princess Crown, Shining Force III Premium Disc, Radiant Silvergun, Cotton Boomerang, Stellar Assault SS, Shinrei Jusaishi Taroumaru, Haunted Casino, Dungeons and Dragons Collection, Final Fight Revenge, Crows... In terms of percentage of total releases it's not as high, but only a fraction of Japanese games are accessible to non-Japanese speakers, so it seems to amount to pretty much the same. And then you bring other consoles into it... $100 for a used copy of a quite possibly dated Saturn game versus $50 for a brand new copy of a game on current generation consoles is a rather uneven contest. So, are you saying that - in your opinion, A $100 title with infinite replay value isn't worth twice what a modern day gaming title is worth I've found a modern day gaming title is more likely to have infinite replay value, not less. (Besides, replay value isn't worth that much to me. If I like a game enough, I'll play it again even if it has zero replay value; if I don't, I won't play it again regardless of replay value.)
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Post by retrolove on Oct 9, 2014 14:19:19 GMT
Yes i have time to play all my games martiniii as im stuck in the house 24/7 with a medical condition so the not enough time part does not aply.I also scour yahoo japan to get the games cheaper(if possible) and dont rashly just buy games at any price. Thanks for the input martiniii all points are valid and this is why i gave the floor to you guys seeing as you all have probably more experience and have spent more time collecting than me,and you all will have seen the prices rocket up.
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Post by martiniii on Oct 11, 2014 13:18:53 GMT
Yes i have time to play all my games martiniii as im stuck in the house 24/7 with a medical condition so the not enough time part does not aply.I also scour yahoo japan to get the games cheaper(if possible) and dont rashly just buy games at any price. Thanks for the input martiniii all points are valid and this is why i gave the floor to you guys seeing as you all have probably more experience and have spent more time collecting than me,and you all will have seen the prices rocket up. Cool. Sorry to hear about your medical condition, but if you're taking the time to play lots of great Saturn games then that's a pretty good silver lining.
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Post by retrolove on Oct 12, 2014 9:55:11 GMT
Cheers martiniii ,the relative sanity of playing the saturn keeps me smiling,and of course reading all the threads on this awesome forum also helps.
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