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Post by Warlok on Feb 25, 2009 18:15:15 GMT
I recently bought a 4 in 1 Action Replay cart (it claims it has a 1 or 4 mb RAM expansion) because I thought it might come in handy if I ever buy any of the games that requires me pimping my Saturn with some extra juice. I think I mentioned this in the "post here everytime..."-thread.
Now I wonder: Which games are they? I seem to recall something about Darkstalkers 3, King of Fighters ('95 and/or '97 I suppose) and Metal Slug. But there must be more. Please, enlighten me. I want a list, cause I actually feel inclined to buy at least one game that takes advantage of my awesome new cartridge.
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Post by superdeadite on Feb 25, 2009 18:30:47 GMT
Going from memory, not a complete list:
Games that support 1mb RAM:
Marvel Super Heroes
Cyberbots
Cotton 2
Games that require 1mb RAM:
Metal Slug
KoF '96
KoF '97
Waku Waku 7
Samurai Spirits 3
Samurai Spirits 4
Real Bout Garou Densetsu
Groove On Fight
Games that require 4mb RAM:
X-Men VS Street Fighter
Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter
Vampire Savior
Street Fighter Zero 3
Final Fight Revenge
Astra Super Stars
Note, KoF '95 and Ultraman require actual ROM carts. They will only play with the original cartridges they come with.
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Post by mick_aka on Feb 25, 2009 18:38:44 GMT
4MB RAM:
Dungeons & Dragons Collection
Final Fight Revenge
Friends: Seishun no Kagayaki
Marvel Super Heroes
Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter
Noёl 3
Noёl 3 Limited Editon
Pocket Fighter
Street Fighter Zero 3
Super Real Mahjong P7
Vampire Savior
X-Men vs. Street Fighter
1MB RAM:
Astra Superstars
Cotton 2
Cyberbots
Fatal Fury 3
Fighter’s History Dynamite
Friends: Seishun no Kagayaki
Groove On Fight
King of Fighters ‘96
King of Fighters ‘97
King of Fighters The: Best Collection
KOF Double Pack: King of Fighters ‘95 & ‘96
Metal Slug
Noёl 3 Limited Editon
Noёl 3
Ragnagard
Real Bout Fatal Fury
Real Bout Fatal Fury Special
Real Bout Garou Densetsu Best Collection
Real Bout Garou Densetsu Special
Samuari Showdown IV
Samurai Showdown III
Samurai Spirits Best Collection
Samurai Spirits: Amakusa Kourin
Samurai Spirits: Zankurou Musouken
Super Real Mahjong P7
Super Real Mahjong P7 P’s Club Limited Edition
Waku Waku 7
EDIT: As superdeadite says, any games that have ROM as opposed to RAM carts will require the use of the original cart.
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Post by superdeadite on Feb 25, 2009 18:48:22 GMT
Doesn't Astra Superstars require the 4mb? I'm fairly positive about that one. Also:
Samurai Shodown III = Samurai Spirits: Zankurou Musouken
Samurai Shodown IV = Samurai Spirits: Amakusa Kourin
Exact same games, just the proper Japanese titles.
LOL, I forgot Ragnagard was ported to Saturn. That game is such a piece of shit.
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Post by mick_aka on Feb 25, 2009 19:10:18 GMT
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Post by Warlok on Feb 25, 2009 19:33:40 GMT
4MB RAM: Dungeons & Dragons Collection Final Fight Revenge Friends: Seishun no Kagayaki Marvel Super Heroes Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter Noёl 3 Noёl 3 Limited Editon Pocket Fighter Street Fighter Zero 3 Super Real Mahjong P7 Vampire Savior X-Men vs. Street Fighter 1MB RAM: Astra Superstars Cotton 2 Cyberbots Fatal Fury 3 Fighter’s History Dynamite Friends: Seishun no Kagayaki Groove On Fight King of Fighters ‘96 King of Fighters ‘97 King of Fighters The: Best Collection KOF Double Pack: King of Fighters ‘95 & ‘96 Metal Slug Noёl 3 Limited Editon Noёl 3 Ragnagard Real Bout Fatal Fury Real Bout Fatal Fury Special Real Bout Garou Densetsu Best Collection Real Bout Garou Densetsu Special Samuari Showdown IV Samurai Showdown III Samurai Spirits Best Collection Samurai Spirits: Amakusa Kourin Samurai Spirits: Zankurou Musouken Super Real Mahjong P7 Super Real Mahjong P7 P’s Club Limited Edition Waku Waku 7 EDIT: As superdeadite says, any games that have ROM as opposed to RAM carts will require the use of the original cart. Thank you both very much! No sweat about KoF '95, since I don't really like the game anyway. It's ok, but nothing I'd consider buying. Just to cause some more trouble; which of these games are RPG's or the like, i.e. close to impossible to play if you don't know any japanese whatsoever? You could just send the list again with an asterisk or something at the games that are japanese, dialogue-driven and not fighters or shmups or the like. I could check 'em all out on after another on the internetz but that'll take days, and since you sit there with all your knowledge, please share  |
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Post by Warlok on Feb 25, 2009 19:46:34 GMT
Another question btw: What about the US games, like Marvel Super Heroes? Do they support the RAM boost as well, or is it just the japanese versions that does that?
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Post by Warlok on Feb 25, 2009 23:38:48 GMT
And, yet another, more specific question: Is the japanese version of King of Fighters '97 compatible with the 4 in 1 Action Replay cart? 'Cause I found it kinda cheap on tradera just now. But no use to buy if I can't play it.
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Post by mick_aka on Feb 25, 2009 23:51:26 GMT
As far as I can remember the US MSH neither requires or supports the expansion.
As far as I know Xmen Vs Street Fighter is the only game that has any serious compatability issues with the AR 4 in 1.
...feel free to correct me on either of those folks....
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Post by Warlok on Feb 26, 2009 1:38:25 GMT
Oh. Hell. This is weird, and awkward.
I just took my old 3 in 1 (or so I thought) card out, and replaced it with the new 4 in 1 one (since this procedure can harm the slot if done often, I wanted it done as soon as possible so I could stop worrying and play on) and I discovered that they both look EXACTLY the same. They also have the same built-in cheat codes and all.
I know for a fact that my new card has ram expansion since it was boxed brand new and all, and the box says it has, but I'm afraid my old card is the exact same. Which means I might have wasted good money on "nothing" (I can sell the old one of course, but still). My question now is: Is there any way to tell, just by looking at the card itself, if it has the ram expansion function or not? They both say Action Replay 4M plus.
This scares me... Damn it scares me.
Edit: I'm quite sure what happened now. In 2001 or something, when I ordered my 3 in 1, the company got it mixed up and I got a 4 in 1 (I got no box back then). Since then I've been thinking I have a 3 in 1, but it's been a 4 in 1 all along. Well, I'm fine with it considering my new one is brand new, it was sealed and shit, and therefore should last longer. I'll use the new one exclusively from now on.
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Post by mick_aka on Feb 26, 2009 2:15:12 GMT
Sell the old one on eBay, half the time they go for more than Rob Webb sells them for new!
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Post by superdeadite on Feb 26, 2009 3:31:40 GMT
US Marvel Super Heroes does support the RAM cart, just like the Japanese release. But it isn't an advertised feature since the carts were never released there.
X-Men VS Street Fighter works perfectly fine on a US Saturn with PAR. I think its actually MSHvsSF that has problems, and its only on PAL Saturns.
Most all of the RAM cart games are fighters and mahjong games. Cotton 2 and Metal Slug are shooters. You shouldn't need any Japanese for the majority of them.
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Post by Dolph on Feb 26, 2009 5:28:59 GMT
There is some discrepancy here, bizzarely a while back on... hmm possibly assembler a few people reported JAP titles that used extra RAM working on JAP saturns but NOT region modified PAL units.
Could anyone here confirm or deny this?!
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Post by mick_aka on Feb 26, 2009 5:38:29 GMT
I've not heard of that before, not had any issues on my region modded model 1, but then I barely have half the titles on that list.
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Post by termis on Feb 26, 2009 11:28:10 GMT
Yeah, I haven't heard that myself. As far as I know, once you switch those pins around (whether they be 50/60Hz switch, or region switchs) they should be pretty much 100% compatible with the other region's software.
Only thing I've heard of were 50/60Hz glitches between different region games (on non-50/60Hz-switched saturns), but that's not really the game's fault, per se.
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