akirashin
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Post by akirashin on May 7, 2011 19:24:22 GMT
The hst-3200 is the very first revision of the saturn sold in a long box like the PAL model1. It was produced during around one year. At the first look they are almost identicals. Left: hst-3200 - Right: hst-3210   But if you look closer, there is a lots of differences: The most obvious detail (up:hst-3210 - down:hst-3200)  Up:hst3200 - Down:hst-3210      The reset button isn't at the same place and the inside metal plate is more shiny on the 3200.  No inscriptions on the 3200 cartridge slot  Power consumption changed too, the 3200 needs 15w, only 12w for the 3210. I hope thoses information (with my terrible english) can help someone. |
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Post by Madroms on May 7, 2011 20:48:31 GMT
power board attached to the top part of the case for HST-3200 and this model has the bios v1.00 (for most of them if not all).
Different revisions of internal parts also.
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Post by termis on May 8, 2011 2:30:11 GMT
Yeah, IIRC, internally, they look quite different. The 3200 has the LED lights for the power/reset buttons on different PCBs attached to the top portions of the board, whereas the latter has the clear tubes carrying transftering the light from the main motherboard upto the top. I believe the 3200 had separate daughterbaord for the mpeg card slot too.
Basically, internally, it's changed quite a bit, and the 3210 looks much more similar to the majority of mk2 models inside.
I never noticed the external differences (even the numbering system). Thanks for sharing.
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Post by yuji on May 8, 2011 4:05:35 GMT
Great comparison, now I'd like to know which Saturn parts are interchangeable in case of a failure!
I've got HST-0005, HST-0014, HST-0019, and they seem to have different CD drives, it would be nice if they were swappable.
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Post by termis on May 10, 2011 10:55:06 GMT
From what I've played around with, motherboard variation didn't matter as much as whether the laser aseembly were connected by 20-pin or 21-pin ribbon cables. That is, all the 20 pin drives worked amongst different models of 20-pin saturns, and same was true for 21-pin drives. There might be an exception, but I haven't ran across any.
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Post by DarkSlim on May 11, 2011 8:26:40 GMT
Very nice! I've got a HST-3210 and I love it hehe it is said to be very different internally  |
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Post by yuji on May 11, 2011 8:38:45 GMT
termis, do you know which models have the 20-pin and which has 21-pin??
If we could find that out, it would be very helpful in case of a console failure.
I'm also wondering whether the JVC drives and Sanyo drives are what separates the pin numbers.
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Post by zyrobs on May 11, 2011 9:20:57 GMT
The reset button isn't at the same place and the inside metal plate is more shiny on the 3200. Then the 3210 uses the typical "hard" metal heatsink, that has pegs to house the CD board, while the 3200 has a "soft" metal heatsink (awesome for modding), same material as the bottom heatsink on later models, and the pegs holding the cd board are to be screwed into the bottom of the whole thing. I have a PAL model that uses a build like that, and yeah, it too houses the power supply and all the leds / reset switches in the top of the case. Also, the CD open/close sensor is on the top, connected with a cable to the CD unit, unlike other models where it's just a plastic/metal dong on the upper left of the main pcb. It has 20W written on it though, and so are my other Saturns (up to 1996 built Model 2) Questions: - Does the 3200 actually have a small fan, or just a cut-out space for it? - Can you do hi-res shots of the machines disassembled, for comparison? edit: also there's a good chance it uses the cd board that has multiple gain potmeters on the side, and the plastic bottom may have a peg on the right/back side to hold the upper part in place. |
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akirashin
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Post by akirashin on May 11, 2011 10:12:54 GMT
No fan inside, but I the plugs for it are on the motherboard. For Hi-res pictures of the inside just wait until I find 2 non working systems. The 2 saturn I showed in the pictures have never been disasembled so I want to keep them in this condition |
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Post by zyrobs on May 11, 2011 10:25:58 GMT
No fan inside, but I the plugs for it are on the motherboard. For Hi-res pictures of the inside just wait until I find 2 non working systems. The 2 saturn I showed in the pictures have never been disasembled so I want to keep them in this condition Whaaaaat? The only pictures I have for hst-3200 pcbs (both va0 and va0.5) have no fan plugs. |
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Post by Kibbles on May 11, 2011 13:23:00 GMT
GOD HELP US.
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Post by yuji on May 11, 2011 14:32:15 GMT
Would be awesome to just add the fan and make the Saturn sound like a Dreamcast (fighter jet engine sound)
J/K
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Post by zyrobs on May 11, 2011 19:25:21 GMT
Would be awesome to just add the fan and make the Saturn sound like a Dreamcast (fighter jet engine sound) J/K I actually did that, though it was a slightly bigger fan with a slightly lower rpm. It was still loud, but not really noticeable - not while playing anyway. It was necessary because the power supply overheated after longer sessions, and caused screen shaking + no loading upon the next boot. |
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Post by RallyDon82 on May 11, 2011 20:04:21 GMT
Would be awesome to just add the fan and make the Saturn sound like a Dreamcast (fighter jet engine sound) J/K maybe those vents show that a fan was possibly considered then dropped from the design a shame 'coz if it did have a fan then there may not have been as much of a problem with overheating as there has been with saturns especially the model 1 variety. |
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Post by yuji on May 12, 2011 0:46:39 GMT
Didn't know the Saturn had overheating issues! Anyhow, I really don't like noisy consoles, so maybe a heatsink would be a better solution  |
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