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Post by icefactor52 on Jun 16, 2011 21:05:20 GMT
Hey guys,
Well, as you may know, I'm pretty new on the Saturn scene. I can't tell you how many games I've burned for the Dreamcast, and it's greatly useful. However, I can't seem to find a concrete way of doing it on the Saturn...
I've been looking for guides and whatnot for the last few hours, and the only thing I can find is A: modchips, and B: the swap trick. Now I'm not exactly a technical genius when it comes to modding and whatnot, and I hear doing the swap trick is bad for the console itself, so does anyone know if there's any other ways to play burned games without such tricks? I have a model 2 Saturn if that's any help.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by zyrobs on Jun 16, 2011 21:51:12 GMT
Yes, you can buy an official bootdisk. They were used as developer tools however, so they are rare collectors items now.
Swap trick can, in theory, wear down the motor on the disc drive, but you can exchange that if you find replacement parts.
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Post by Stuart36 on Jun 16, 2011 22:44:59 GMT
or you could buy the games, as most of them are relatively cheap.
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Post by icefactor52 on Jun 16, 2011 22:57:40 GMT
or you could buy the games, as most of them are relatively cheap. Except the good ones? Lol. With shipping, Dragon Force is $72, Guardian Heroes is $62, Albert Odyssey is $62, Shining Force III is $34, etc, etc. Sure, I could go buy Gex, Legend of Oasis, Virtual On, and maybe one or two more games and spend less than $30, but I don't think those are exactly the best games on the system, aside from Oasis. |
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Post by Syntesis on Jun 16, 2011 23:37:11 GMT
Installing a Saturn modchip in a model 2 is pretty much one of the easiest mods out there. If you really want to get the most out of your Saturn you should get it done. Stuart is being cute  |
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Post by Stuart36 on Jun 16, 2011 23:54:40 GMT
Stuart is being cute aw shucks, babe. all i am saying is that i started my collection by paying £20 for a console and £30 worth of games, and then followed it up with about 15-20 games that i got for £1 (inc. postage). stellar titles such as tomb raider, virtua fighter 1 & 2, fighting vipers, alien trilogy, clockwork knight, croc, daytona usa, die hard trilogy, hexen, pandemonium, quake, rayman, sega ages, sega rally and sonic 3D. tell me why you couldn't just spend £17 on getting all that, rather than spending £10 on discs and all that time burning copies of games, ending up with no boxart or manual or boxes to stack on shelves? |
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Post by Syntesis on Jun 17, 2011 0:07:55 GMT
Yes you can definitely get a lot of good Saturn games for fairly cheap but you'll come unstuck if you want to play the RPGs, RAM cart games and various Japanese exclusives. I like owning a physical copy too but it's not £50+ worth of enjoyment It's also nice to have a disk with no value that I can easily replicate. My Shenmue disk 1 and Guardian Heroes are scratched... these things are too fragile to be spending a big chunk of change on. |
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Post by icefactor52 on Jun 17, 2011 0:10:08 GMT
I really don't care about the collection honestly- I just want to play the games, which is why I'm more interested in burning than anything. I also happen to be into making my own cases, booklets, and covers, I even do it for my PS3 games, so that's not an issue for me.
However, you say that modding the Saturn is easy? How much would the chip and iron cost, and what kind of technical abilities would be necessary to do it?
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Post by Stuart36 on Jun 17, 2011 0:13:40 GMT
the point was more that it really isn't worth fussing with making your own copy when you could just buy it for £1.
but i heard that the mod is one of the easiest that can be done and can be done by pretty much anyone. Syntesis here used it as a way of teaching herself to solder properly ^^
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Post by Syntesis on Jun 17, 2011 0:19:18 GMT
the point was more that it really isn't worth fussing with making your own copy when you could just buy it for £1. but i heard that the mod is one of the easiest that can be done and can be done by pretty much anyone. Syntesis here used it as a way of teaching herself to solder properly ^^ Well sure if you only want to play the super common games. And I taught myself using a Dreamcast modchip which is waaaaay harder because of that horrible connection to the BIOS chip If I remember correctly the Saturn modchip is just one wire and is not difficult to solder, it just goes to the power board. |
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Post by Stuart36 on Jun 17, 2011 0:24:17 GMT
common =/= bad.
usually common because lots of people bought it, which often means good (though often means aweful in the case of things like football games).
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Post by Syntesis on Jun 17, 2011 0:29:29 GMT
I didn't say they were bad?
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Post by stinho on Jun 17, 2011 6:37:14 GMT
on a side note, doesn't the dreamcast play backups even without a mod chip?
If it doesn't, I accidentally picked up a modded one...
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Post by zyrobs on Jun 17, 2011 8:15:12 GMT
on a side note, doesn't the dreamcast play backups even without a mod chip? If it doesn't, I accidentally picked up a modded one... It does, provided you burn selfbooting images with padus discjuggler. There are limitations in 50/60hz though, and some last generation machines actually have the security problem fixed and will need modchips. Also, you still need some kind of modding for imports. |
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Post by Syntesis on Jun 17, 2011 18:01:25 GMT
Yep, the modchip is for playing import originals. I don't think there are any US or PAL Dreamcasts that can't play MIL-CDs, it's just certain late Japanese models.
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