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Post by barryburton on Dec 11, 2015 16:09:59 GMT
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Post by barryburton on Dec 11, 2015 16:15:53 GMT
If I knew my wife wouldn't kill me, I'd be very tempted to do a complete set. I'm with DTSS here!
I'd make my own, not buy it from someone else, using bundles and markets rather than eBay, initially at least.
I'm a fairly level headed person normally, but I do have a little obsessive trait deep down somewhere that would LOVE the whole lot on a shelf. I could probably afford it now over the course of a couple of years. Hell I bet half of us on here lose a couple of grand a year on car depreciation, and Saturn games hold their value much better!
But due to space and time constraints I'm sticking just to games I'll play and enjoy, plus the odd rarity I come across.
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Post by caseh on Dec 11, 2015 17:56:07 GMT
Hell I bet half of us on here lose a couple of grand a year on car depreciation. Depends on where you come in on owning a car, my last car actually gained a few £££'s during my ownership...well, until I crashed it at least.
Games seem to be a sound investment at the moment but there's no guarantee it will last but most of us probably don't care about it's value in say 10 years.
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Post by barryburton on Dec 11, 2015 19:39:32 GMT
Hell I bet half of us on here lose a couple of grand a year on car depreciation. Depends on where you come in on owning a car, my last car actually gained a few £££'s during my ownership...well, until I crashed it at least.
Games seem to be a sound investment at the moment but there's no guarantee it will last but most of us probably don't care about it's value in say 10 years.
Yes but unless you've either bought scrap or a classic, a car will lose value, same as an off the shelf new game. I suppose you're right that most people don't look at Retro games as an investment, rather a hobby- as do I. But personally I'm much happier spending £50 on a Saturn game that I'm confident of reselling for around or more than that price once I've finished with it, compared to the same amount on a current PS4 release that will definitely be worth half that in matter of months, and probably £5 tops in a couple of years. Notwithstanding a subsequent rise in perhaps a decade for a few classic/rare games. I guess Saturn games will hit a peak at some point, but I bet we're not there yet- just look at the value of the slightly older games like PC Engine and SNES, from what I can see they continue to climb.
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Post by bultje112 on Dec 11, 2015 21:05:42 GMT
Personally I can't see the point in owning the full catalogue of games for any console. I would rather collect my favourite titles from multiple systems rather than complete a single set.
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Post by bultje112 on Dec 11, 2015 21:11:26 GMT
If I knew my wife wouldn't kill me, I'd be very tempted to do a complete set. I'm with DTSS here! I'd make my own, not buy it from someone else, using bundles and markets rather than eBay, initially at least. I'm a fairly level headed person normally, but I do have a little obsessive trait deep down somewhere that would LOVE the whole lot on a shelf. I could probably afford it now over the course of a couple of years. Hell I bet half of us on here lose a couple of grand a year on car depreciation, and Saturn games hold their value much better! But due to space and time constraints I'm sticking just to games I'll play and enjoy, plus the odd rarity I come across. what does your wife have to do with your collection?
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Post by xDerekRx on Dec 11, 2015 21:21:29 GMT
Ive gone back and forth over the complete set thing since 2005. Ive built up the collection to maybe 100 and sold it off I think twice. Once maybe in 2006 and again in 2008. Both times I kept stuff like my original games from when I was a kid and some of the bigger releases. Its 2015 now and oddly I sorta had the urge to complete my US set again. I think part of it is I almost have everything that is over $60 in my collection. So I feel I got all the pricey stuff out of the way. I merely need inexpensives, commons, and handful of midrange. I grew up with many game systems, just about all of them but the Saturn has that special place from the short time I owned it so its the only one I care to contemplate a complete set. I feel like it would be fun to do even though I would have dozens of sports games and shovelware. For me Im that weird guy that actually enjoys a fair amount of the crap on the system anyway. Ive also got alot of my collection from game shops, conventions, garage sales and flea markets. Doing it that way makes it more about the hunt and adventure anyway. I wouldnt just go on ebay and buy large chunks and call it a day. No fun in that at all. I admit I have bought a good amount of my rarer titles online but not as many as you think. So that said Im not in a hurry to do a complete set. Its just Im running out of my must have list for the system and wouldnt mind continuing the collecting fun. What I justify doing is when Im traveling to another city for whatever reason, Ill goto a couple retro shops. If I see a common Saturn game I dont have Ill grab it. It then always has that story behind it. Just this past week I bought Battle Arena Toshinden Remix while out of town. I didnt have it, been curious about playing the early polygon fighter and it was only $5 complete mint. I do have small collections of systems like NES, Game Boy, Genesis, Dreamcast, PS1, N64 , 32x etc but only the games I want. The Saturn is the one system I just like collecting hard for and experiencing everything that came out. It just tugs at my heart that way where I can even play the crap games just to see what the Saturn did with it Like most people have said, if you are starting now, or if I had started Saturn collecting in the last 2 years, forget it. No way. Even starting in 2005 has been an uphill battle. I still felt guilty paying the 2008 prices for games. In the US I bought Bomberman for $40 mint in 08, it goes for $300 now. I fretted the $40 back then despite it being a game I needed for Netlink play. PDS I did pay $150 which I thought was insane but $400 now... And those are just two small examples. Basically every $20 game turned to 40+. Some $60 games turned to $200 games (House of the Dead, Magic Knight, Burning Rangers). So Id say you didnt have to be rich to collect a Western Saturn set if you slowly did it since 2000 but if you are starting now, you are in Neo Geo, Turbo/PCE territory. And you know the worst part about it now too is? You can never find the games in the wild anymore. That takes away the other half of the collecting fun. I grabbed an Astal from a game shop years ago for $5 complete. Now I see it in shops for $65 behind the glass case. Ive seen titles like Holy Ark, Alberty Oddysey, SFIII, Enemy Zero and so on sitting on shelves at game stores for low prices of the years. So back then you could have fun finding good titles in the wild, but also pay a fair price. Now you are paying insane price and having to go online. Kinda takes alot a way if you started from scratch now.
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Post by dtss on Dec 12, 2015 6:22:38 GMT
If I knew my wife wouldn't kill me, I'd be very tempted to do a complete set. I'm with DTSS here! I'd make my own, not buy it from someone else, using bundles and markets rather than eBay, initially at least. I'm a fairly level headed person normally, but I do have a little obsessive trait deep down somewhere that would LOVE the whole lot on a shelf. I could probably afford it now over the course of a couple of years. Hell I bet half of us on here lose a couple of grand a year on car depreciation, and Saturn games hold their value much better! But due to space and time constraints I'm sticking just to games I'll play and enjoy, plus the odd rarity I come across. Welcome to the club! I'm at about 105 ATM. Already picked up a couple of rare/more expensive ones like Mortal Kombat Trilogy, Guardian Heroes and Deep Fear. Question - What's the game Return Fire?! Never heard of it. After some googling it was an unreleased game that was apparently released a few years ago. Anyone played it? Reminds me of Mass Destruction. I wouldn't mind downloading it. However, will it play with an action replay or will I need to mod my saturn? Also, are there anymore games that have been since released like this? Thanks.
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Post by barryburton on Dec 12, 2015 8:43:59 GMT
If I knew my wife wouldn't kill me, I'd be very tempted to do a complete set. I'm with DTSS here! I'd make my own, not buy it from someone else, using bundles and markets rather than eBay, initially at least. I'm a fairly level headed person normally, but I do have a little obsessive trait deep down somewhere that would LOVE the whole lot on a shelf. I could probably afford it now over the course of a couple of years. Hell I bet half of us on here lose a couple of grand a year on car depreciation, and Saturn games hold their value much better! But due to space and time constraints I'm sticking just to games I'll play and enjoy, plus the odd rarity I come across. what does your wife have to do with your collection? Two young kids to provide for and spend time with, limited space at home and shall we say differing views on a) spending weekends looking round game shops and charity shops and b) the pleasure of playing hours of video games. Not that I don't spend some time on that, i do, but I think in a marriage you have to compromise, right?
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Post by bultje112 on Dec 12, 2015 11:30:28 GMT
you have to compromise to some extent of course. but your wife also works?
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Post by barryburton on Dec 12, 2015 12:10:44 GMT
you have to compromise to some extent of course. but your wife also works? She does. As I said above, I could probably afford the collection over a period of time. And I'd certainly enjoy collecting it and seeing the finished article- it wouldn't be about showing it off as not many people I know are at all interested in video games. I suppose the main barrier is the time and effort it will take me, compared to what else I could do with my family with that time and effort, that's the real crux of why I don't collect the whole lot. That and space. On the other hand, I could buy the whole lot on eBay over the course of a couple of weeks on credit card, but I can't see that being very fulfilling. Being honest, after the initial fun and buzz of collecting it all, the novelty would probably wear off eventually- as NeoGeoNinja said earlier, I'd end up with perhaps 100 crap games I'd never play anyway.
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Post by bultje112 on Dec 15, 2015 19:09:11 GMT
to me what I love about collecting videogames and consoles is actually playing them. that and watching them on my shelves. feeling like I own a museum or something
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Post by sych on Dec 23, 2015 18:15:54 GMT
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Post by linkt101 on Dec 23, 2015 20:27:05 GMT
^^^ The BIN seems reasonably priced, as I guestimate the sum of every PAL game is worth somewhere between £4.5-5k.
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Post by caseh on Dec 23, 2015 22:29:06 GMT
He's gonna struggle to shift that. Actual value aside, i find the asking price to either be a piss take or just he hasn't noticed..445678, may as well have gone in with a price of 456789.
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