Cerv3ro
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Post by Cerv3ro on Jun 18, 2017 11:46:22 GMT
After seeing Deep Fear I was always curious why Capcom said the Saturn couldn't handle RE2. The Money was the reason, the same that Tomb Raider 2. I love both games, but my vote is for RE because is bigger than DF. After i finished DF there was nothing, no extras, no ranking, no nothing.
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mattius
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Post by mattius on Jun 18, 2017 16:03:35 GMT
After seeing Deep Fear I was always curious why Capcom said the Saturn couldn't handle RE2. The Money was the reason, the same that Tomb Raider 2. I love both games, but my vote is for RE because is bigger than DF. After i finished DF there was nothing, no extras, no ranking, no nothing. Probably, but I'm still surprised Japan didn't get a version.
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Post by Anthaemia. on Jun 18, 2017 16:27:31 GMT
Sony did indeed pay to make Tomb Raider II a PlayStation exclusive, but these kinds of deal only ever applied for the first six months following a game's initial release, which is why so many titles published by Psygnosis in particular eventually reached the Saturn. The actual reason we never got TR2, Fighting Force or Ninja is because Core joined most third parties in giving up on Sega's platform beyond 1997. Although their output for the Saturn was quite limited, especially later, Core remained close to Sega, producing the SCUD Race tech demos for Dreamcast - or Katana as it was then still know - and creating an upgraded version of Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation. In retrospect, I find it hilarious that certain journalists hyped this as a bigger coup than Namco giving the Dreamcast a massively improved treatment of Soul Calibur, since one is now highly regarded while the other has been mostly forgotten.
As for Resident Evil 2, my understanding is that Capcom was happy to cancel even a Japanese Saturn version of this game in return for an opportunity to develop what became Code: Veronica for the Dreamcast, using its Windows CE OS to produce the definitive editions of RE2 and RE3 later on. For those unaware, CV was originally intended as the true sequel to RE3, with Nemesis something that only remained on the PlayStation because of how long the PS2 hardware was taking to finalise. Once you take this into consideration, CV is what a true next generation RE3 should have been, rather than just a spin-off from RE2. In terms of its plot, there's little progression achieved by following Jill Valentine try to escape Raccoon City, while CV directly continues Claire Redfield's search for her brother, Chris, leading to the surprise return of Albert Wesker. I've never really thought of RE3: Nemesis as the legitimate canonical successor to RE2... That honour belongs to CV.
(So many acronyms!)
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Post by bultje112 on Jun 18, 2017 16:30:36 GMT
The Money was the reason, the same that Tomb Raider 2. I love both games, but my vote is for RE because is bigger than DF. After i finished DF there was nothing, no extras, no ranking, no nothing. Probably, but I'm still surprised Japan didn't get a version. why surprised? the psx trashed saturn there.
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Post by mattius on Jun 18, 2017 16:41:03 GMT
Probably, but I'm still surprised Japan didn't get a version. why surprised? the psx trashed saturn there. Any the Saturn beat the N64 there. What's your point?
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Post by xDerekRx on Jun 19, 2017 2:52:47 GMT
Japan is where the Saturn did the best as far as interest so I wouldn't say the word "trashed".
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Post by xDerekRx on Jun 19, 2017 3:04:09 GMT
After seeing Deep Fear I was always curious why Capcom said the Saturn couldn't handle RE2. The Money was the reason, the same that Tomb Raider 2. I love both games, but my vote is for RE because is bigger than DF. After i finished DF there was nothing, no extras, no ranking, no nothing. I appreciate Deep Fear because survival horror games aren't as endlessly plentiful as other genres. Plus it was a Sega game. However Resident Evil 1 is just so damn good and like you said its just bigger. The cool little exclusives Capcom threw in the Saturn version were a nice touch as well. Would have been cool if Resident Evil 2 made it out right at the end but was not to be.
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Post by bultje112 on Jun 19, 2017 11:21:30 GMT
why surprised? the psx trashed saturn there. Any the Saturn beat the N64 there. What's your point? why bring out a resident evil 2 on a dead saturn platform in japan?
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Post by bultje112 on Jun 19, 2017 11:22:27 GMT
Japan is where the Saturn did the best as far as interest so I wouldn't say the word "trashed". 20 million psx in japan vs 6-7 million saturns. I call that trashing.
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Post by thewhitefalcon on Jun 19, 2017 13:40:25 GMT
Being on the market years longer at lower prices just may have had something to do with that. Is that concept hard to grasp?
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Post by bultje112 on Jun 19, 2017 14:02:07 GMT
Being on the market years longer at lower prices just may have had something to do with that. Is that concept hard to grasp? psx had already outsold saturn more than 2 to 1 by 98 so I have no idea why it would make any sense to release resident evil 2 in japan on a dead system
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Post by xDerekRx on Jun 20, 2017 0:55:01 GMT
Id argue the Saturn was still viable enough to warrant a release in early 1998 in Japan. And even as late as mid 1997, Bernie Stolar was confident enough that he announced a US release would happen of RE2. 6-7 million units is nothing to scoff at despite being far less in comparison.
The big thing that got in the way of course was that RE2 was delayed into 1998 as Anthaemia alluded to because Capcom was not happy with the early builds of the game.
Had Capcom stuck to the original development schedule Im sure it would have came out for the Saturn as Im thinking a late 1997 release was in the cards.
Ill have to find the link to the Stolar quote about RE1 coming to North America and then proceeded to say RE2 would come out a week after the PS1 version. I think it was on Daves old Saturn page.
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Post by sych on Jun 20, 2017 1:30:28 GMT
Any the Saturn beat the N64 there. What's your point? why bring out a resident evil 2 on a dead saturn platform in japan? Well Capcom certainly didn't think the Saturn was dead. They were still making games for it in 2000. Infact Capcom brought out SFZ3 on the Saturn after the Dreamcast version in 1999, so they clearly still had love for the console if they were still making games for it despite the presence of the Dreamcast, there must've been still a market. And anyone that owns SFZ3 on the Saturn will know that game was made with nothing but love. It shits all over the Dreamcast version and all other versions. I'm pretty sure that Resident Evil 2 delay messed up a whole bunch of Capcom games that were scheduled to appear after it i.e Marvel vs Capcom, Streetfighter 3rd Strike. All talked about but never to appear. It's so irritating that we never got those 2 games. URH!!
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Post by Anthaemia. on Jun 20, 2017 23:52:26 GMT
The big thing that got in the way of course was that RE2 was delayed into 1998 as Anthaemia alluded to because Capcom was not happy with the early builds of the game. I forgot to mention this before, but Capcom actually released an official preview trailer for RE2 (in its initial prototype form) on their CFC Style video series that included both the PS and Saturn logos at the very end. However, the PS was still the lead platform, with its own version scheduled to hit Japanese shelves in March or April 1997, with the Saturn port would have likely followed six months later. Of course, all this changed after development was overhauled when the project was close to completion, delaying the results until early '98.
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Post by jasonoverlook on Oct 21, 2017 13:22:28 GMT
Resident Evil all day just based on the fact I played it way back when as a kid and have gone back to it countless times since then and it never gets old for me. The first game to truly scare the shit out of me also haha. It's not my favourite in the series though, that goes to Resi 2 easily, how I wish that was ported to the Saturn..
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