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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2011 16:21:07 GMT
i think he means when you go into game and buy fifa 10 and it looks like you could get used frisbys from 1985 in better condition... Yeah that's what I mean. Wear and tear on cardboard? Normal. A used 360 game that looks worse then my local bar's ashtrays? How does one do that? Especially to something they paid money for? Honestly, here in the UK I think it's usually homes with young children who couldn't care less about cleanliness, or people who generally don't keep any aspect of their homes (or themselves) that clean. As for me, I keep my games in mint condition by keeping the discs in disc wallets, and putting the cases in boxes. If I buy a game new, after I've taken the disc out, I go as far as to put the boxes back in the plastic wrapping they came in. There have been a few times I've done this, and when selling a game, people have replied back asking whether I've actually sent them a new copy of a game. Keeps my sales rep up.
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Post by Stuart36 on Mar 28, 2011 16:34:51 GMT
It's one thing for someone to do that to their copy but for GAME to accept that and put it on their shelves as is speaks volumes. I hate games retail in this country. i get pretty pissed off at this, they don't seem to take condition into account AT ALL. the other day i bought metroid prime from gamestation, and they said they only had the innards from metroid prime 2. i asked if i could get a discount, and they look at me as if to say "why would a game be worth less than a game?" like they didn't understand that having a game in it's actual box is worth more than mixing and matching. As for me, I keep my games in mint condition by keeping the discs in disc wallets, and putting the cases in boxes. If I buy a game new, after I've taken the disc out, I go as far as to put the boxes back in the plastic wrapping they came in. There have been a few times I've done this, and when selling a game, people have replied back asking whether I've actually sent them a new copy of a game. but then you can't enjoy the game for yourself. i can understand keeping them in the original plactic, and i might start doing this, but i would HAVE to keep them on a shelf so that i can look it and go "AWW YEAH BITCHES, DEMZ B MA GAEMZ!!!" also, by keeping the discs in a wallet, you damage them when you take them in and out, since a case leaves a gap between the underside of the disc and the case, whereas those cases rub the dirt and grit all over it, micro scratching the shit out of it. ... i also find i end up rubbing it along the zip getting it out.
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Post by mick_aka on Mar 28, 2011 16:38:14 GMT
i think he means when you go into game and buy fifa 10 and it looks like you could get used frisbys from 1985 in better condition... Yeah that's what I mean. Wear and tear on cardboard? Normal. A used 360 game that looks worse then my local bar's ashtrays? How does one do that? Especially to something they paid money for? I believe that was covered in the part where I said 'kids'. I treat my 360 games very well indeed, but things that get a lot of play are in a terrible state and I've put this down to both my 360s scratching the discs. There's also the factor that while £39.99 is a good some of money for most of us, for some people it's the equivalent of something we've spent 50 pence on. My ex box treated his £100,000+ Bentley Continental worse than most people treat a bus shelter.
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Post by Stuart36 on Mar 28, 2011 16:44:48 GMT
Some people are just dicks.
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Post by Syntesis on Mar 28, 2011 16:50:22 GMT
As an aside, this is why I will probably never buy another Microsoft console: My 360 scratched disks too. Worst console hardware I've ever owned.
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Post by Stuart36 on Mar 28, 2011 16:52:50 GMT
but you own a saturn...
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Post by Syntesis on Mar 28, 2011 17:02:17 GMT
but you own a saturn...
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Post by Stuart36 on Mar 28, 2011 17:13:18 GMT
none of you can deny that the saturn is one of the messiest piles of random hardware wired together, which awesome people made some good games for.
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Post by Syntesis on Mar 28, 2011 17:30:20 GMT
none of you can deny that the saturn is one of the messiest piles of random hardware wired together, which awesome people made some good games for. That might be so but at least it's reliable (cart slot aside) and doesn't permanently damage your games.
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Post by Kibbles on Mar 28, 2011 17:43:55 GMT
The 'Chaos' thing is the reason there are less Japanese games in bad condition though. The concept exists in most of asia - and it is the reason asian families beat their kids for dropping grains of rice or wearing shoes inside the house although my family never hit me for it I used to get a good rhetoric monologue about family shame every time I did these things. A lot of People dislike pre-owned things in Japan - a lot of buildings in Japan were even built with the intention of being demolished after the original occupants had left. It's where stories like Grudge appeared from (the house carries the curse of its own chaotic pass with it) To a degree, there is truth in it. Buildings often aquire sick building syndrome causing elements such as house dusts and fungal spores as they age - it is perhaps these factors that caused such beliefs in the first place (Not to decry anyone's belief of magic sky people or yin and yang). Apathy breeds apathy etc. People with messy homes have messy homes because they have messy homes. In situations like these, the problem is the cause. I'll vouch for the disc wallet being a piece of shit statement, I put my ghost in the shell bluray in a disc wallet and the thing never played again. As someone with two cultures flowing in my blood, I would have to say I do not like either asian culture's treatment of despair induced by chaos nor do I enjoy western's culture's almost complete disregard for it. I am half white and half chinese, so I only half understand both concepts. For example, when my white half accidentally ejaculates on an expensive object while masturbating, my asian half gets angry.
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Post by Stuart36 on Mar 28, 2011 18:17:53 GMT
just as we start getting girls in the forum...
also, where are you masturbating that you get it on expensive stuff?
finally, that's what tissues are for...
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Post by mick_aka on Mar 28, 2011 19:11:10 GMT
For example, when I half accidentally ejaculate on an expensive object while masturbating, asian store owners get angry. Fixed.
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Post by mattfrie1 on Mar 28, 2011 19:52:15 GMT
Why do you want to start a PAL collection? The reason why prices are higher for PAL are because not many copies were printed. The Saturn was not popular here at all so games released in 1998 especially were fairly scarce. It's not an exaggeration that some stores only got 3~ copies of some games and never restocked. We also have very few retail retro games stores so ebay is the main source and there people can artificially inflate prices (see Mortal Kombat Trilogy). And then you have the problem of people not taking care of their games and viewing them as literally disposable further reducing the pool of available games for sale. Compare that to Japan that has a thriving second hand retro games market with proper retail presence and people who look after their belongings. It's night and day. I actually figured that's why PAL games were more expensive, but like others have said, the Saturn in Europe was more successful than here in America. I've also been able to pick up many US Saturn games for very cheap amounts of money (I only payed $9.95 for a brand new sealed copy of Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3). I guess the availability of games is probably the major factor. I'm not looking into making a huge PAL collection, I'm just looking to get many of the games that were never released here in America that I really couldn't get in a Japanese format, like Wipeout 2097, Riven, and both Discworld games.
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Post by ShenmueAddict on Mar 28, 2011 20:50:27 GMT
Why do you want to start a PAL collection? The reason why prices are higher for PAL are because not many copies were printed. The Saturn was not popular here at all so games released in 1998 especially were fairly scarce. It's not an exaggeration that some stores only got 3~ copies of some games and never restocked. We also have very few retail retro games stores so ebay is the main source and there people can artificially inflate prices (see Mortal Kombat Trilogy). And then you have the problem of people not taking care of their games and viewing them as literally disposable further reducing the pool of available games for sale. Compare that to Japan that has a thriving second hand retro games market with proper retail presence and people who look after their belongings. It's night and day. I actually figured that's why PAL games were more expensive, but like others have said, the Saturn in Europe was more successful than here in America. I've also been able to pick up many US Saturn games for very cheap amounts of money (I only payed $9.95 for a brand new sealed copy of Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3). I guess the availability of games is probably the major factor. I'm not looking into making a huge PAL collection, I'm just looking to get many of the games that were never released here in America that I really couldn't get in a Japanese format, like Wipeout 2097, Riven, and both Discworld games. Dont forget Deep Fear
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Post by mattfrie1 on Mar 28, 2011 21:23:07 GMT
Dont forget Deep Fear I knew I was forgetting one.
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