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Post by Syntesis on Mar 28, 2011 21:27:03 GMT
Regarding the Saturn doing better in Europe than America, I think they both did equally poorly (about a million and a half each). While we might have got some exclusives like Deep Fear (which btw, I didn't see a single copy of back in the day) and Wipeout 2097, we didn't get Magic Knight Rayearth and Albert Odyssey so it's swings and roundabouts really. Maybe as others have said Saturn PAL is the new in thing. Damn hipsters.
It will even out in the end.
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Post by Stuart36 on Mar 28, 2011 21:29:02 GMT
come on mainstream! you didn't like saturn then, stop liking it now i want cheap games!!!
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Post by Willja on Mar 28, 2011 23:45:25 GMT
I treat my 360 games very well indeed, but things that get a lot of play are in a terrible state and I've put this down to both my 360s scratching the discs. Do you sit your 360 on it's end per chance Mick? I recall that causing lots of problems with the PS2. The worst thing I ever experienced with a disc was a Saturn game I bought on eBay and the seller thought it was a good idea to tape it the box and even though I tried to carefully peel it off the disc, it still lifted the paint off the label!
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Post by mick_aka on Mar 29, 2011 0:02:34 GMT
I had it on its side originally as so many people had warned against having it standing, and both of then scratched up discs anyway, so now I have the one in the front room standing and the one in the bedroom laying down.
I once brought a NES game from the US and the seller cut the top end of the box off to fit it inside a smaller jiffy bag. I also had someone ship me a new laptop hard drive loose in a normal unpadded white envelope, sounded like a tin full of ball bearings when it got to me.
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Post by dumpkid on Mar 29, 2011 0:06:26 GMT
Very interesting thread, but I have another suggestion.
I think that the concept of retro gaming is becoming more acceptable currently and dare I say "cool."
One thing I have noticed about this generation is the fear of young gamers being labelled a "noob," something I dont really remember being such an issue in previous generations. Therefore a lot of younger gamers seem to purposely seek out the more obscure/ rarer titles and systems to attain street cred amongst peers.
A classic example is when I was skyping my younger brother a couple of weeks ago and a friend of his asked me if I had Divine Sealing for the megadrive. I was a bit taken a back that he knew such an obscure title and asked if he was a megadrive gamer back in the day, to which he replied "No, I grew up with Playstation but I'm thinking of getting into retro gaming."
Now I am all@about obscure games as I, frankly I imagine everyone, wants to avoid playing the same game just with a different title over and over again. However, this one-up-manship is ridiculous and why would you start with a fairly average, unlicensed, semi-pornographic shmup?
In conclusion I think that while retro gaming maybe cool the concept of imported titles may still be a bit too out there for a lot of people, thus PAL prices are going up.
Doesn't really effect me though as I now only collect Japanese releases and have the fortune of living in Japan. I have noticed that the Japanese guys who frequent Akiba's retro stores are a little more hardcore than your average gamer, and retro gaming doesn't carry the baggage of being cool over here.
On a side note the less said about PAL EU sega system system boxes the better. If I so much as look at my PAL copies of Evil Twin or Evolution 2 in a strange way I imagine they will fall apart and some E-Bay seller will only be too happy to charge me an arm and a leg to replace them.
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Post by Yart on Mar 29, 2011 0:10:51 GMT
lol Divine Sealing.
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Post by ShenmueAddict on Mar 29, 2011 0:43:36 GMT
The saturn card boxes were shite, sega odviously realised this though as the dvd style sega saturn boxes are in my opinion excellent! does anyone know the exact date they started using the mk2 saturn boxes? was it late 96/ early 97?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2011 0:50:00 GMT
On a side note the less said about PAL EU sega system system boxes the better. If I so much as look at my PAL copies of Evil Twin or Evolution 2 in a strange way I imagine they will fall apart and some E-Bay seller will only be too happy to charge me an arm and a leg to replace them. Last time I checked a few sellers were selling around 4-5 brand new DC cases at around £12 incl postage. Don't know whether that's considered an arm or a leg?
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Post by Syntesis on Mar 29, 2011 12:27:45 GMT
I had it on its side originally as so many people had warned against having it standing, and both of then scratched up discs anyway Same for me. I don't think the orientation makes any difference, it's just a shoddy console. I didn't even bother to complain to MS about it because I knew their response was to blame the customer.
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Post by superdeadite on Mar 29, 2011 12:32:08 GMT
I love Divine Sealing. You really have to try, to make a game that awful. Its wonderful.
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Post by infernalcombustion on Mar 29, 2011 23:37:54 GMT
Back on topic - I think that collecting the Saturn here in the UK is an expensive option, especially if you're looking for a complete collection. I'm not pretending that it's a cheap task in the US by any means (take a look at the Daytona Netlink edition for example!!), but generally speaking there are an awful lot of so-called 'rare' games that command awfully large amounts of money in PAL format these days. I only manage to justify to myself some of the large amounts of money I've paid out, by taking some solace in the games I've paid pennies for. Regarding the actual condition of the games themselves, I'm not particularly bothered if a game is hard to find and in below average condition - it is after all playing the games themselves that I'm bothered about. Never-the-less, I'm constantly amazed by the lack of regard or care some people take in their own property. There was a time when I would happily share my games with my friends, but since the introduction of CD formats I've had to put this to an end, as I've been very disappointed to have games returned either covered in finger prints or worse scratched!! Don't even start me on music CD's and DVD/Blurays lol!!
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Post by swedishmeat87 on Mar 31, 2011 14:54:44 GMT
Totally agree with you Infernal. I personally spent arround 10000 GBP so far on Saturn PAL Games and then i dont even include the accesorys or the consoles only games
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Post by Stuart36 on Mar 31, 2011 22:45:58 GMT
£10,000?
i've spent like £2,500 in the last year... and i'm a student.
then again, that was on a lot of games, not just saturn.
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Post by Yart on Apr 1, 2011 3:46:52 GMT
Yea last year I spent about the same on games. I too was only a college student.
Then I realized that was a very stupid mistake.
This year I've spent $0 so far, and I've been enjoying the games I spent all that money on instead of letting them sit on the shelf and letting myself get too overwhelmed to the point that I don't know what to play first. (I'm a player, not a collector)
This year I plan on buying only one thing of four: A Dreamcast, a Jaguar, some Wii games, or Magical Drop III. (And I'm managing my funds and planning to buy after September)
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Post by swedishmeat87 on Apr 1, 2011 6:23:13 GMT
Yeah Stuart £10,000 on 2-3 Years for me And King i totally agree with you i really need to stop buy games for a year and play them
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