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Post by caseh on Mar 29, 2017 19:11:48 GMT
Ahhh that's awesome, I've not received my X68k yet but I'm thinking it may have issues with my xrgb mini. I'll sign up for next batch when I'm at my PC next, thanks for the confirmation.
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Post by atolm on Mar 29, 2017 22:33:58 GMT
Ahhh that's awesome, I've not received my X68k yet but I'm thinking it may have issues with my xrgb mini. I'll sign up for next batch when I'm at my PC next, thanks for the confirmation. You need a sync combiner circuit (unless you've got an Extron or something similar) The framemeister only takes RGBS, not RGBHV. It's a cheap little project you can make with a bread board. All the components can be found on mouser for a few bucks www.epanorama.net/circuits/vga2rgbs.htmlI soldered one of these up in a cheap dreamcast VGA box, and wired up a scart cable for use with the xrgb.
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Post by buckoa51 on Mar 29, 2017 23:01:02 GMT
Does the Mini support medium res too?
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Post by xDerekRx on Mar 30, 2017 0:30:12 GMT
I'm not aware of ANY Sony sets that even handle 240p as progressive, let alone a 4k set that has a scaler optimised for graphics rather than video. Yeah I call BS on this too until I see actual proof, sorry. This is the same guy who wasn't aware of the glaringly obvious game engine quirks in Burning Rangers. Despite video evidence and period reviews stating as such. So from now on I'm going to take any "visual" impressions he has with a grain of salt. atolm I think you should know by now that he is merely a troll in most threads. Why waste energy arguing something that we all know its glaring. Only a blind person would say any modern TV looks good without some help from these scalers when it comes to retro. Although I will admit I think BR looks great despite some of the glitches as far as that argument goes. Also just got the shipping email for my OSSC, looking forward to seeing what it can do.
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Post by atolm on Mar 30, 2017 2:48:04 GMT
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Post by caseh on Mar 30, 2017 19:22:37 GMT
atolm Cheers for the info, I'll look into it. X68k arrived today and it's a shame the mini struggles the way it does over scart. After much fannying about i got something resembling a pretty good image: Short lived though, random dropouts with Capcom games and the mini will often refuse to resync and require a power cycle.
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Post by atolm on Mar 30, 2017 23:46:35 GMT
how is it "struggling"? I was under the impression the x68k output H/Vsync not Csync. So unless you've got a sync combiner, how are you hooking it up?
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Post by buckoa51 on Mar 31, 2017 11:37:53 GMT
If he's using SCART then the SCART cable probably has a sync combiner in it.
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Post by nevermind on Mar 31, 2017 13:42:29 GMT
I noticed that my TV has some bad lag. It doesn't show much apart from in fighting games like xmen vs sf where commands need to be put in quickly. Would a scaler help with this? I don't really have room to set up a second crt TV
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Post by buckoa51 on Mar 31, 2017 16:41:50 GMT
It can help yes, depends on the set. Didn't you say before you were using one of those Samsung's that correctly processes 240P? In that case it probably won't help, but on a lot of TVs, using an external scaler that properly processes 240P material can actually reduce lag. This is because a lot of HDTVs process 240p as 480i and apply deinterlacing, and good quality deinterlacing always introduces high lag.
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Post by atolm on Mar 31, 2017 22:42:55 GMT
and good quality deinterlacing always introduces high lag. I'd say the xrgb does better than good quality, and it's certainly not high lag.
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Post by buckoa51 on Mar 31, 2017 22:51:42 GMT
Well, 20ms is still significant, but the Mini's deinterlacer is excellent for gaming material, but not great for film/TV material, and of course any deinterlacer in a consumer HDTV is going to be optimised for film/TV.
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Post by atolm on Mar 31, 2017 23:05:27 GMT
Well, 20ms is still significant, but the Mini's deinterlacer is excellent for gaming material, but not great for film/TV material, and of course any deinterlacer in a consumer HDTV is going to be optimised for film/TV. I'll be honest, I haven't tried it for film material. but there is a "anime" and "movie" setting. I'm not sure if those do something other than color adjustments.
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Post by buckoa51 on Mar 31, 2017 23:46:02 GMT
Yeah I wouldn't bother tbh, probably no better than the deinterlacer in your TV.
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Post by atolm on Apr 1, 2017 8:57:57 GMT
Yeah I wouldn't bother tbh, probably no better than the deinterlacer in your TV. Well, I don't have any vintage equipment like a laser disc player to try it with. But I don't see why the Framemeister wouldn't do an excellent job with it. It is using a Marvell QDEO processor. They were built especially for blu ray and home receivers with film deinterlacing as a primary feature: www.marvell.com/multimedia-solutions/qdeo/
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